However Roman Catholic catechism teaches that grace and salvation is earned, and that the Holy spirit is given through water baptism.
*'''CCC 2010''' - “Moved by the Holy Spirit and by charity, '''we can then merit for ourselves''' and for others '''the graces needed''' for our sanctification, for the increase of grace and charity, and '''for the attainment of eternal life.'''<ref>http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s1c3a2.htm#2010</ref>
:To restate, '''"'we can then merit for ourselves'''...'''the graces needed'''...'''for the attainment of eternal life."''':This is a denial of salvation by grace (''grace is not grace'') and doctrine , or gospel of salvation by works.<ref>*Galatians 1:8''' - ''if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.''
*'''2 Corinthians 11:4''' - ''For if someone comes and ''proclaims another Jesus'' than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough.''<br>The Roman church preaches that the foundation stone laid in Zion is Peter, not Jesus.</ref>
:::[[Falsehood|False]]. CCC 2010: "''no one can merit the initial grace'' of forgiveness and justification, at the beginning of conversion." (CCC 1996-2011)<br>Your "water baptism" comment is a [[misrepresentation]], by carefully omitting an important teaching of the Bible. In '''Acts 19:1-6''' Paul explained why John's water baptism was insufficient (vv.4-5). John's baptism, though it required repentance, yet looked '''''forward''''' to the coming of the One for whom John was a forerunner (Jesus). '''Jesus had not yet died''' when John baptized people. His was a baptism of '''''preparation''''' looking forward to Jesus' death. "Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard ''this'', they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus." This shows that John's water baptism unto repentance cannot be the water baptism which Jesus commanded people to receive under the gospel (Matthew 28:19). Christians are baptized into his death, burial, and resurrection (Romans 6:4; Colossians 2:12) "by the washing of water by the word" (Ephesians 5:26). John's disciples were not. So then they were baptized by Paul.<ref>See https://www.gospelway.com/topics/salvation/baptism-john.php The Baptism of John the Baptist, David E. Pratte. <br> See also ''Catechism of the Catholic Church'' CCC 1213-1228.</ref> --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 06:36, 30 August 2020 (EDT)