::::Independent Skeptic says, '''"This shows that John's water baptism unto repentance cannot be the water baptism which Jesus commanded people to receive"''' Bingo! Now reconcile what you just posted with Roman Catholic doctrine and all the drivel in the [[Infant baptism]] page. Hint: Jesus didn't command "water baptism". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 09:07, 30 August 2020 (EDT)
:::::::Yes He did! John 3:5 "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born [''regenerated''] of '''water and ''of'' the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God'''."<br>"Regenerate" in John 3:3-5 is the Greek '''γεννηθή''' ''gennethe''.<br>The words '''γεννηθή''' ''gennethe'' and '''γεννηθήναι''' ''gennethenai'' in the Greek New Testament text of John 3:3-5 mean to ''procreate, regenerate, bear, beget, be born, conceive'', a variation of '''γένος''' ''genos'', meaning ''born, offspring, generation, stock''.<ref>See Strong's numbers [http://biblehub.com/greek/1078.htm 1078], [http://biblehub.com/greek/1079.htm 1079], [http://biblehub.com/greek/1080.htm 1080], [http://biblehub.com/greek/1081.htm 1081], [http://biblehub.com/greek/1083.htm 1083], [http://biblehub.com/greek/1084.htm 1084], [http://biblehub.com/greek/1085.htm 1085].</ref> <ref> This "born" (as being literally "generated/regenerated") is the ordinary word "born" also used in + :::::::Yes He did! John 3:5 "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born [''regenerated''] of '''water and ''of'' the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God'''."<br>"Regenerate" in John 3:3-5 is the Greek '''γεννηθή''' ''gennethe''.<br>The words '''γεννηθή''' ''gennethe'' and '''γεννηθήναι''' ''gennethenai'' in the Greek New Testament text of John 3:3-5 mean to ''procreate, regenerate, bear, beget, be born, conceive'', a variation of '''γένος''' ''genos'', meaning ''born, offspring, generation, stock''.<ref>See Strong's numbers [http://biblehub.com/greek/1078.htm 1078], [http://biblehub.com/greek/1079.htm 1079], [http://biblehub.com/greek/1080.htm 1080], [http://biblehub.com/greek/1081.htm 1081], [http://biblehub.com/greek/1083.htm 1083], [http://biblehub.com/greek/1084.htm 1084], [http://biblehub.com/greek/1085.htm 1085].</ref> This "born" (as being literally "generated/regenerated") is the ordinary word "born" also used in '''Matthew''' 1:16; 2:1, 4; 11:11; 19:12; 26:24; '''Mark''' 14:21; '''Luke''' 1:35; 7:28; '''John''' 1:13; 3:3-8; 8:41: 9:2, 19-20, 32, 34; 16:21; 18:37; '''Acts''' 2:8; 7:20; 18:2, 24; 22:3, 28; '''Romans''' 9:11; '''1 Corinthians''' 15:8; '''Galatians''' 4:23, 29; '''Hebrews''' 11:23; '''1 John''' 2:29; 3:9; 4:7; 5:1, 4, 18.</ref><br>"Regenerated" is also found as "born again" '''άναγεγεννηθήναι''' ''anagegennethenai'' in 1 Peter 1:23, "Being born again (regenerated), not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever." <ref>See Strong's number [http://biblehub.com/greek/313.htm ''313'' '''άναγεγεννάω''' ''anagegennao'' to ''beget'', or ''bear'' (again).]</ref> <br>Compare [http://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/1-13.htm the interlinear text of John 1:13], [http://biblehub.com/john/1-13.htm multiple versions of John 1:13], [http://biblehub.com/commentaries/john/1-13.htm and multiple commentaries on John 1:13]. <br>This "word" of God in [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+1%3A23&version=RSVCE 1 Peter 1:23] is a direct reference to the doctrine of [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+5%3A25-26&version=RSVCE Ephesians 5:25-26], where Paul says,
:::::::"Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word."<br>See also [http://biblehub.com/interlinear/titus/3-5.htm interlinear text of Titus 3:5] [http://biblehub.com/titus/3-5.htm multiple versions of Titus 3:5] and [http://biblehub.com/commentaries/titus/3-5.htm multiple commentaries on Titus 3:5].
:::::::"he saved us, not because of deeds done by us in righteousness, but in virtue of his own mercy, by the '''''washing'' of regeneration''' and renewal in the Holy Spirit, which he poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior". The Greek word for "washing" in this text means "water-washing"—"he saved us...by the water-washing of regeneration". <br> The word of God is the word spoken simultaneously with the action of pouring, immersing or sprinkling of water in the [[sacrament]] of [[baptism]] to wash away all sins,<ref>See [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+22%3A16&version=RSVCE Acts 22:16]; [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+5%3A26&version=RSVCE Ephesians 5:26].</ref> "I baptize you in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen." (Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16.) This is "baptismal regeneration". It is Jesus Himself Who baptizes through the ministry of the members of His Own Body the Church in which He dwells always together with the Holy Spirit of truth with us foe ever.<br>Not one of those who claim to have been baptized in the Spirit by faith alone has ever been told at the decisive moment they accepted Christ as their personal Lord and Savior, "I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" before they were plunged into water as their testimony of salvation (''especially at the moment when they accepted Him sitting in the pew or decided to accept him by faith when they were alone''—''they certainly did not hear the words, "I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit", at that moment of decision''). <br>So from the whole context of the scriptures we can '''know''' that Jesus commanded water baptism. The Catholic doctrine of water baptism is biblical. It's the doctrine of the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth, led into all the truth for ever by the Spirit of truth with us for ever. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 13:07, 30 August 2020 (EDT)