*[https://twitter.com/jennifurret/status/405391218273554433 Jennifer McCreight on Twitter about the Elevatorgate scandal destroying the atheist movement], [[Jen McCreight]], Twitter</ref>
Groups/organizations which unsuccessfully meet challenges and/or face future challenges which they believe they cannot successfully overcome, often become: dispirited, experience infighting, have less respect for each other, distance themselves from one another, become pessimistic and also become less effective.<ref>[http://www.centreforconfidence.co.uk/flourishing-lives.php?p=cGlkPTIzNiZpZD04Nzk= Confidence in teams and organisations], Center For Confidence and well-being]</ref>
At the [[2018 American Atheists National Convention]], the ex-president of the [[American Atheists]] organization [[David Silverman]] declared: