Difference between revisions of "Talk:Dan Quayle"

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He also famously had difficulty in spelling the word 'potato' and was jeered by the liberal media for making the reasonable assumption that people in Latin America spoke Latin.

Resonable assumption? A US vice president not knowing what language they speak in Latin America? Czolgolz 08:34, 3 April 2007 (EDT)

Huey, how is this info important? This sounds like gossip to me and is unsourced.

Did a political opponent say, "Quayle is so stupid he can't even spell potatoes"?

And did he state that people in Latin America speak Latin - a serious forthright statement? Or was it just a verbal gaffe, such as many public speakers occasionally make? --Ed Poor 18:46, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

Are you trying to tell me that a verbal gaffe isn't a statement? That doesn't make sense. Here are your cites: [1] and [2]. Not gossip, not unsourced. It stays. --Huey dun gotcha 18:49, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

I remember the potato thing. We was at a school, helping kids with their spelling. His list had a missprint and he convinced a kid to spell potato 'potatoe'. Czolgolz 08:34, 3 April 2007 (EDT)

Quayle never thought it was important to get things right. Apparently, many other "conservatives" also feel that knowing something is snobbish. Latin hasn't been spoken, except in the Vatican, for hundreds of years. Does it make someone an elitist to know this?

Mercilessly Attacked

To anyone following at the time that was common knowledge; the only question was if people were for or against the incredible scrutiny. The idea that a couple of article citations could do justice completely misses the scope of what occurred. Learn together 14:52, 30 August 2007 (EDT)

So let those people judge "merciless." Leave it out of the article. --Ursus 14:55, 30 August 2007 (EDT)

If you had changed it to repeatedly at first, I would have left it as is. But removing any indication that attacks on Quayle were any different from the usual run of the mill was very disingenuous versus reality.

On another note, we don't force through changes here. If you, as a new person, see an established article and make a change and that change it rejected, then take it to talk and discuss first. We aren't the other wiki. Trying to force changes to match your perception of what they should be will lead to blocking. I hope that is clear. Learn together 15:09, 30 August 2007 (EDT)

You were right about repeatedly. Better choice than mercilessly, but also better than no adjective at all. We can agree on this.

At the same time, while I don't wish to get into a flame war, the comment about forcing through changes is inappropriate given the context of the changes. Your explanations for calling the attacks merciless give/gave no justification for its inclusion. Had you provided a citation for it, this give-and-take would be unnecessary. Ultimately, the article works better without the word. --Ursus 16:16, 30 August 2007 (EDT)

We agree mercilessly was better than no choice at all. I accept repeatedly because I can see where you're coming from, but I also believe that mercilessly was appropriate in this situation. How many times was Quayle asked the same question in the Vice Presidential debate? Has that ever happened with anyone else in the history of the debates? How about the widely reported allegations made by a bimbo that took up with married men that Quayle made a pass at her and she turned him down?

Forcing through is wrong no matter what rationale you try to give it, and will ultimately result in your being blocked if that is a pattern. There should not be a need to mention it again. Please realize that any attempts to rationalize may carry personal meaning to you, but has no value to this site. Learn together 03:12, 2 September 2007 (EDT)

Al Gore

I remember Gore getting really ripped about the 'I Invented the Internet' quote...let's face it, gaffe for gaffe, Quayle wins. He wasn't dumb, just a poor public speaker and the press loves to jump on that, especiallly comedy shows. Remember Admiral Stockdale (Perot's running mate)? War hero, statesman...but when he got trounced at the VP debates he came off as a senile fool. I don't think this article is the place to rip on Gore. Maestro 21:10, 12 October 2007 (EDT)