Difference between revisions of "Talk:Israel"

Revision as of 16:34, February 7, 2011

I was trying to fine tune this entry but I think I ruined it

The entry on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict seems very one sided...

I see that you are guilty of doing exactly what you complain about on Wikipedia.

I edited this entry adding factual and easily verifiable information and someone came along and deleted the entire thing, claiming that my edits were not true.

I would like to know what was not true about the facts I listed. Every single thing I wrote is easily verified.

The article is just a long list of war-related grievances. None of it has a source, and most of it is false. If you want to write an article on the conflict between Israel and its neighbors, then it would have to have verifiable info. This is an article on Israel, and should describe Israel.

Almost everything is false. The deleted portion starts with "In 1948, it once again became a sovereign nation largely due to terrorist tactics". Not true. Israel became a sovereign nation as a result of a UN action. RSchlafly 13:08, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

... but would almost certainly not have been handed over to the UN if groups such as Haganah, the Stern gang, and Irgun had not carried out terrorist attacks against the British; the King David hotel bombing, which was the most obvious example, killed 91 people - I would call that terrorist tactics. Wikinterpreter

Israelis say that the King David hotel was a military target in a war of independence. If so, it was not terrorist. RSchlafly 16:45, 19 March 2007 (EDT)

• Be mindful of your train of logic. If I blew up a children's hospital, then turned around and said "it was a military target," then by your reasoning no one should ever claim that I did a horrible and evil thing such as, well, blowing up a children's hospital... Jros83 23:20, 22 June 2007 (EDT)*

But almost all bombers say that they are attacking complicit targets in wars of independence. Wikinterpreter

No, terrorist bombers target civilians, such as random people on a public bus. RSchlafly 15:29, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

But they say that the civilians are complicit. Anyway, of the 91 people killed, only 28 were British: 41 were Arabs, 17 were Jews, and 5 haven't been identified. They would seem like civilians. Wikinterpreter

• There we go with another deceit, written as if it is fact. The land was never, not ever, their home, so it cannot be a "war of independence", but more truthfully called a "war of theft", simply terrorism. --Sysop-TK _/MyTalk 03:29, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

The map

The map is not accurate, since it shows the Jewish parts of East-Jerusalem and the West-Bank are not in Israel. It also shows not the Golan Heights. Some of the territory are disputed, but not Golan Heights or East-Jerusalem, these are annexed many years ago to Israel. I dont know should the map show Oslo "Area B" or "Area C" which are run now by "Palestinian" authority, but probably it should show Area "A", and aboslutely show East-Jerusalem and Golan in Israel.

Étienne Léger

GDP

The GDP figures are confusing. The article discusses a GDP per capita of 17K+ in 2005, but yet it is 26K+ in 2006. This would appear to be inconsistent. For the record, the CIA factbook would seem to support the higher number. Learn together 15:53, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Biblical Israel

Do we need a page on the Biblical Israel and the Upper/Lower kingdom history? --MHayes 19:49, 3 September 2008 (EDT)

Jewish terrorism

The Jewish state of Israel was created through primarily terrorism. Before Israel was establish there were I think 60,000 Jews and 630,000 Palestinians. The Jews claimed that the land was orginally their's. However, Israeli Jews are not descendents of Abraham, and have no right to the land of Israel. The murderous acts of Zionists in Israel (many of whom are atheistic Jews, and therefore Jewish only in race) are well-documented. Israel itself has later condemned some, but not all, of the terrorist acts. Even today, Israelis continue to kill Palestinians to take over even more land. Now, I am not one to say that conquering land is wrong, seeing as how I am an American, and I live on conquered land. But the Israelis did not just conquer the land, they did so in the most violent, senseless, inhumane ways. They are truly terrorists in every sense of the word. Jews in fact are almost always Israelis, rather than being loyal to their host country. Jews in America put Israel's interests first. I can list the many, many document terrorist acts of Israelis and Zionists in general. However, I have a feeling it will go to waste. I have read the sections on Israel, Zionism, Nazism, and Communism, and I must admit, I lost faith in Conservapedia upon doing so. I discovered that Conservapedia is already infiltrated with Jews. This section on Israel, which makes Israel seem more holy than America, is very pro-Israel. Israel is a Jewish supremacist nation, so it is ironic that while Nazis fought for their own race in Germany they are evil, but while Jews take over someone else's land, and then establish Jewish supremacism is benevolent. In conclusion, if Conservapedia wants to truly help out Christian Americans, please edit all sections containg information on Jews, Zionism, and Israel. Right now all you are doing is spreading misinformation.

--ṬK_/Admin^/Talk 16:49, 28 May 2010 (EDT)

Citation Needed?

I've noticed that there's a lot of text and only 3 sources on this article. I'm not doubting the truthfulness, but we should probably get some sources.