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| − | I've Removed the following '"It takes a village (government) to raise a kid", Hillary Clinton. In a normal society, it takes only a mother and a father.' because it has no citations. Also the definition of a "normal" society is subjective. For myself in New Zealand, a normal society is likely to be very different to someone in Brazil who again would have a very different society to someone in America. We would all consider our particular society "normal" [[User:KiwiDan|KiwiDan]] 16:48, 13 | + | I've Removed the following '"It takes a village (government) to raise a kid", Hillary Clinton. In a normal society, it takes only a mother and a father.' because it has no citations. Also the definition of a "normal" society is subjective. For myself in New Zealand, a normal society is likely to be very different to someone in Brazil who again would have a very different society to someone in America. We would all consider our particular society "normal" [[User:KiwiDan|KiwiDan]] 16:48, 13 September 2011 (NZST) |
| + | :I've provided a citation. A "normal" society is logically presumed to be one that embraces rational [[conservative values]] (like only needing a mother and a father to raise a child) instead of an entire village (or as she clearly implied, a ''government''). [[User:RSnelik|RSnelik]] 01:20, 13 September 2011 (EDT) | ||
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Is banning the sale of violent video games to children really a good example of the Nanny State in action? Violent video games, as Conservapedia has pointed out regularly, features in the lives of pretty much every young killer from the last decade? Surely there are dozens of better examples. Anybody mind if I change this? [[User:AlycaZ|AlycaZ]] 19:30, 15 August 2011 (EDT) | Is banning the sale of violent video games to children really a good example of the Nanny State in action? Violent video games, as Conservapedia has pointed out regularly, features in the lives of pretty much every young killer from the last decade? Surely there are dozens of better examples. Anybody mind if I change this? [[User:AlycaZ|AlycaZ]] 19:30, 15 August 2011 (EDT) | ||
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| + | == Seatbelt laws == | ||
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| + | Click-it or ticket ring a bell? Why should I get a ticket if I choose (stupidly) to not buckle up in my car? I'm not endangering anyone else am I? --[[User:DrDean|DrDean]] 01:01, 19 September 2011 (EDT) | ||
| + | :Maybe not if your on your own but what about if you are driving other people around? You are responsible for their well-being. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 01:05, 19 September 2011 (EDT) | ||
| + | ::If a seatbelt comes into use you are done driving other people around. --[[User:DrDean|DrDean]] 01:07, 19 September 2011 (EDT) | ||
| + | :::I'm sorry - I don't understand your comment. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 01:11, 19 September 2011 (EDT) | ||
| + | ::::Lets say that I'm driving and get into an accident. The drivers seatbelt does nothing to change that accident for anyone in the back of the car or in the passengers seat. --[[User:DrDean|DrDean]] 01:14, 19 September 2011 (EDT) | ||
| + | :::::I know but its your responsibility to make sure ''they'' have buckled up. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 01:18, 19 September 2011 (EDT) | ||
| + | ::::::Why is it the states responsibility to make sure I make them buckle up? My father is 93, he hates to wear his seat belt, if we get in an accident I am under strict orders not to go to any extraordinary measures to save his life, he says that he is old and ready to die, why is it the states business to meddle in my business with my father? What about if I'm the passenger and I choose not to buckle up? If you are driving me around why is it the states business to compel me to buckle up on pain of your getting a ticket if I don't want to? Even if you think that this is the states business how is that not the state being a nanny? --[[User:DrDean|DrDean]] 01:48, 19 September 2011 (EDT) | ||
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| + | == Smoking laws == | ||
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| + | Some potentially useful articles related to smoking laws and smoking age laws: [https://www.yourdailyjournal.com/opinion/editorials/35949/our-view-raising-smoking-age-to-21-expands-the-nanny-state 1],[https://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/economics/item/32709-nanny-state-mania-san-francisco-approves-ban-against-e-cigarette-sales 2],[https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/03/04/endless-nanny-state-rules-wont-let-youngsters-act-like-grown/ 3] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:49, 31 December 2019 (EST) | ||
Latest revision as of 04:49, January 1, 2020
I've Removed the following '"It takes a village (government) to raise a kid", Hillary Clinton. In a normal society, it takes only a mother and a father.' because it has no citations. Also the definition of a "normal" society is subjective. For myself in New Zealand, a normal society is likely to be very different to someone in Brazil who again would have a very different society to someone in America. We would all consider our particular society "normal" KiwiDan 16:48, 13 September 2011 (NZST)
- I've provided a citation. A "normal" society is logically presumed to be one that embraces rational conservative values (like only needing a mother and a father to raise a child) instead of an entire village (or as she clearly implied, a government). RSnelik 01:20, 13 September 2011 (EDT)
Is banning the sale of violent video games to children really a good example of the Nanny State in action? Violent video games, as Conservapedia has pointed out regularly, features in the lives of pretty much every young killer from the last decade? Surely there are dozens of better examples. Anybody mind if I change this? AlycaZ 19:30, 15 August 2011 (EDT)
Seatbelt laws
Click-it or ticket ring a bell? Why should I get a ticket if I choose (stupidly) to not buckle up in my car? I'm not endangering anyone else am I? --DrDean 01:01, 19 September 2011 (EDT)
- Maybe not if your on your own but what about if you are driving other people around? You are responsible for their well-being. MaxFletcher 01:05, 19 September 2011 (EDT)
- If a seatbelt comes into use you are done driving other people around. --DrDean 01:07, 19 September 2011 (EDT)
- I'm sorry - I don't understand your comment. MaxFletcher 01:11, 19 September 2011 (EDT)
- Lets say that I'm driving and get into an accident. The drivers seatbelt does nothing to change that accident for anyone in the back of the car or in the passengers seat. --DrDean 01:14, 19 September 2011 (EDT)
- I know but its your responsibility to make sure they have buckled up. MaxFletcher 01:18, 19 September 2011 (EDT)
- Why is it the states responsibility to make sure I make them buckle up? My father is 93, he hates to wear his seat belt, if we get in an accident I am under strict orders not to go to any extraordinary measures to save his life, he says that he is old and ready to die, why is it the states business to meddle in my business with my father? What about if I'm the passenger and I choose not to buckle up? If you are driving me around why is it the states business to compel me to buckle up on pain of your getting a ticket if I don't want to? Even if you think that this is the states business how is that not the state being a nanny? --DrDean 01:48, 19 September 2011 (EDT)
- I know but its your responsibility to make sure they have buckled up. MaxFletcher 01:18, 19 September 2011 (EDT)
- Lets say that I'm driving and get into an accident. The drivers seatbelt does nothing to change that accident for anyone in the back of the car or in the passengers seat. --DrDean 01:14, 19 September 2011 (EDT)
- I'm sorry - I don't understand your comment. MaxFletcher 01:11, 19 September 2011 (EDT)
- If a seatbelt comes into use you are done driving other people around. --DrDean 01:07, 19 September 2011 (EDT)
Smoking laws
Some potentially useful articles related to smoking laws and smoking age laws: 1,2,3 --1990'sguy (talk) 23:49, 31 December 2019 (EST)
