Talk:Patriotism
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- Patriotism, or love of country, is the highest American virtue. Patriotism means unquestioning obedience and loyalty to the Leader of the country. The opposite of patriotism, treason, is the act of questioning, criticizing or voting against the Leader.
- Patriotism comes from the Latin. An ancient Latino poet wrote "Dulce et decorum est pro Patria mori", which means "It is sweet and decorative for patriots to die"[1].
"highest American virtue"--not sourced.
"Patriotism means unquestioning obedience and loyalty to the Leader of the country." No, it doesn't. It means simply love or devotion to one's country. Hardly the same.
"The opposite of patriotism, treason..." No, they are not opposites. Treason is "Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies." "Failure to be devoted" is not the same as "waging war against it" or "aiding its enemies."
"It is sweet and decorative for patriots to die"; perhaps, but a more usual rendering is "It is sweet and becoming to die for one's country." Dpbsmith 16:38, 25 February 2007 (EST)
- What is the source for this edit,
- the root is the same as pater, father, and literally means "fatherland." RobS 12:32, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
- Should nationalism be mentioned and/or linked? SaWi 21:08, 12 January 2011 (EST)
Breitbart
The Breitbart article about the Wallethub survey contains deceitful cherry picking of data, stopping the most/least patriotic states list at 3. That's why I examined the article in detail and wrote the section that I wrote, increasing the lists to 6. I believed that doing so made it unnecessary to use a reference to the Breitbart article as a gateway to the Wallethub article. But if you believe that Breitbart references may never be removed, that's up to you.
By the way, neither the Breitbart article nor the Wallethub article uses the word "liberal" anywhere. And the Breitbart article's use of Republican/Democratic control of statehouses and legislators as the indicator for redness/blueness of states, and attributing it to the Wallethub article, is deceitful. The latter article was quite clear that they were using the 2016 Presidential vote. SamHB (talk) 13:11, 25 July 2019 (EDT)
DECEIT!
There is deceit in both the Conservapedia article and the Breitbart article. The Breitbart article[2] claims that the Wallethub article says that the 3 least patriotic states are controlled by Democrats. But that Wallethub article,[3] says nothing of the kind. It uses the voting in the 2016 Presidential election, but it says nothing about statehouse of legislature control. The Breitbart article also engages in deceitful cherry-picking by summarizing the top and bottom 3 states, while summarizing the top and bottom 4 states would get a different result.
We at Conservapedia of course have no control over the integrity of Breitbart. But we do have rules that say that "Everything you post must be true and verifiable." Saying "A 2019 WalletHub survey found that the three most unpatriotic states were completely controlled by liberal Democrats" is wrong. Citing a dishonest web site elsewhere in support of that false statement does not make it right.
SamHB (talk) 14:39, 25 July 2019 (EDT)
References
- ↑ Horace, Odes (iii 2.13)
- ↑ Rodriguez, Katherine (June 26, 2019). Study: 3 Least-Patriotic States Run by Democrats. Breitbart News. Retrieved June 26, 2019.
- ↑ Adam McCann 2019’s Most Patriotic States in America Retrieved July 24, 2019.
