:::Thank you, HelpJazz, for inviting me. I absolutely agree with PJR/HumblPi's assessments, too. I'd also like to state that [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Philip_J._Rayment&diff=418351&oldid=418334 this] statement by TK, on the matter, was RIDICULOUSLY inappropriate, and I'm offended ''for'' PJR for having to suffer through an insult like that.-[[User:DParker|DParker]] 11:29, 1 April 2008 (EDT)
== Request for sysop ==Gentleman, I add the template to pages having to do with well-known liberal organizations and people because the template is informative! It directs users to other pages having to do with how and why a liberal thinks, and do what they do. For example, adding the "liberalism" template to Obama and Clinton, users can then use the links in the template to read more, and discover the "tools" or "tricks of the trade" liberals use to obfuscate and shape the public dialog. Adding it to the [[ACLU]] allows users a handy "go to" where they can read more about things that explains the tactics and agenda of the ACLU. Now I am not going to be drawn into yet another non-productive argument made by liberals, who hate the articles the template directs users to, and will seek any means they can to modify or change the POV CP has. You knew what that was coming here, and unless you wish to argue CP has no right to have a conservative voice and POV, you are on shaky ground.
Philip (or any sysop who reads this), since TKWhat I see is a very few people not agreeing with CP's talk page is protectedpoint of view, and doing whatever they can you please direct him to hide it. First and foremost, this conversation? He has made no comment in this discussion is meant to be an instructional wiki. It is also a Conservative and Christian POV friendly one. Our "job" is adding this template to every page teach! We provide tools to users that lead them to discovery, IMO. The template in question can put into context what is read on the pages involved. It acts exactly like a "which involves -see", helping to explain and expound on what the user reads. It also helps call attention to other CP articles, linking to them, and that is a liberalgood thing. Thanks So, I reject the reasoning above, as having none. --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:HelpJazzTK|Help₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User talkUser_Talk:HelpJazzTK|Jazz]] 10:42, 2 April 2008 (EDT):Done. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment/Talk]] 10</font></sup> 16:5802, 2 April 2008 (EDT)
::GentlemanTK - You say that those who disagree with you are trying to '''hide''' CP's point of view. In my case, not at all. I add the template am trying to pages having to do with well'''defend''' it by not letting it turn into self-known liberal organizations and people because the template is informative! It directs users to other pages having to do with how and why a liberal thinks, and do what they doparody. For example, adding the "liberalism" Slapping that template to Obama and Clinton, users can then use the links in the template to read more, and discover the "tools" or "tricks on all sorts of the trade" liberals use to obfuscate tangentially relevant articles like [[Richard Dawkins]] and shape the public dialog. Adding it to the [[ACLUThe God Delusion]] allows users a handy "go to" where they can read more about things that explains makes the tactics encyclopedia look silly, and agenda risks making a mockery of it, as if the ACLU. Now I am not going aim was to be drawn into yet another nonindulge every half-productive argument made by opportunity to take a swipe at liberals, who hate the articles the template directs users rather than to, produce a reliable and will seek any means they can to modify or change the POV CP hasfamily-friendly encylopedia. You knew what that was coming hereIt's unfocused, evidence of sloppy thinking, and unless you wish to argue CP has no right to have a conservative voice and POVultimately self-defeating. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 07:47, you are on shaky ground.3 April 2008 (EDT)
::What I see is disagree that the template makes us look like a very few people not agreeing with CP's point parody of viewourselves, and doing whatever they can to hide or that it. First and foremost, this is meant 's necessarily being used to be an instructional wiki. It is also try to take a Conservative and Christian POV friendly oneswipe at liberals. Our "job" is to teach! We provide tools to users However, I agree that lead them to discoveryit shouldn't be used, IMO. The template in question can put into context what is read on the pages involved. It acts exactly and not because I don't like a "which-see"it, helping to explain and expound on what the user readsbut because it's being improperly used. It also helps call attention Navboxes are used to other CP connect articleswithin said navbox (see the examples above, linking to themalong with {{tl|2008_presidential_candidates}}, and that which is a good thing. So, another one I reject the reasoning abovejust remembered), not as having none. --<font color=a "#1E90FFsee also" face="Comic Sans MS">. I wouldn't be against adding [[User:TK|₮Kconservative links]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:to the See Also section of these articles, since that article has on it all these liberal traits as well as many other resources which serve the same purpose that TK|/Talk]]</font></sup> 16:02, 2 April 2008 (EDT){{liberalism}}is trying to serve by adding this template to the page.
::Two other minor things:TK - You say that those who disagree with you are trying would it be possible to '''hide''' CPdiscontinue adding this template until we have decided here what's point to be done? Additionally, if the template is added, I think it should be added at the very bottom of view. In my casethe page, not at allin the middle. I am trying to '''defend''' Since it by not letting takes up the whole screen, if it turn into self-parody's placed in the middle it cuts the article in two. Slapping that template on all sorts of tangentially relevant articles like [[Richard DawkinsUser:HelpJazz|Help]] and [[The God DelusionUser talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] makes the encyclopedia look silly10:18, and risks making a mockery of it3 April 2008 (EDT) == Request for sysop == Philip (or any sysop who reads this), as if the aim was to indulge every half-opportunity to take a swipe at liberalssince TK's talk page is protected, rather than can you please direct him to produce a reliable this conversation? He has made no comment in this discussion and family-friendly encylopediais adding this template to every page which involves a liberal. It's unfocusedThanks. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 10:42, evidence of sloppy thinking, and ultimately self-defeating2 April 2008 (EDT):Done. [[User:HumblpiPhilip J. Rayment|HumblpiPhilip J. Rayment]] 0710:4758, 3 2 April 2008 (EDT)