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It might be more appropriate to change to title of the page from "ObamaCare" to "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" since it is now actual law instead of a series of health care proposals by the president. The first line of the page could be changed to reflect this. --[[User:Marqmike2|Marqmike2]] 15:39, 31 July 2011 (EDT)
It might be more appropriate to change to title of the page from "ObamaCare" to "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" since it is now actual law instead of a series of health care proposals by the president. The first line of the page could be changed to reflect this. --[[User:Marqmike2|Marqmike2]] 15:39, 31 July 2011 (EDT)
:Hmmm. The move makes sense to me, but maybe we should get a little more discussion. After all, conservatives (and maybe even everyone in general, I don't know) use ObamaCare more often, so even though "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" may be more accurate, "ObamaCare" is more familiar. --[[User:StoryMaker|StoryMaker]] 21:49, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
:Hmmm. The move makes sense to me, but maybe we should get a little more discussion. After all, conservatives (and maybe even everyone in general, I don't know) use ObamaCare more often, so even though "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" may be more accurate, "ObamaCare" is more familiar. --[[User:StoryMaker|StoryMaker]] 21:49, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
:I disagree with Marqmike2. Calling it "Obamacare" seems to fit more with the bias of this site. The real wikipedia says "The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), informally referred to as Obamacare" and we say the opposite, "ObamaCare, more formally known as "The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act". I think if we change it to be less obviously biased, people will think we've gone liberal. Also, the first sentence should mention how Obamacare forces citizens to "pay for sex offenders to use Viagra", right now this outlandish strawman is buried all the way in the fourth paragraph.
::I disagree with Marqmike2. Calling it "Obamacare" seems to fit more with the bias of this site. The real wikipedia says "The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), informally referred to as Obamacare" and we say the opposite, "ObamaCare, more formally known as "The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act". I think if we change it to be less obviously biased, people will think we've gone liberal. Also, the first sentence should mention how Obamacare forces citizens to "pay for sex offenders to use Viagra", right now this outlandish strawman is buried all the way in the fourth paragraph. --[[User:Romneycare|Romneycare]]
:::Well, I have no problem with the change. Obamacare comes off a bit cavalier and informal, and could harm the site's reputation. I think it's best to go with the name of the law and just redirect Obamacare to the page (which Wikipedia also does). Wikipedia is very obviously biased on the Obama page though, so imitating so biased a site as Wikipedia isn't necessarily a good thing. You have a good point about the Viagra comment too - if that's to stay in the article it should be very well-sourced. I checked the page history and apparently it was added in April 2010 by a now-blocked user.[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=ObamaCare&action=historysubmit&diff=767952&oldid=764365] It should be fine to remove that I'd think. Good catch! --[[User:Jzyehoshua|Joshua Zambrano]] 11:22, 3 September 2012 (EDT)
== New Material ==
== New Material ==
As a sidenote, a lot of this research I actually did back in 2010 for an eBook I wrote for the elections that year.[http://www.slideshare.net/Jzyehoshua/the-zambrano-report] Many of the sources are re-used from Chapter 3, pages 87-114. I actually have even more sources provided there relating to ObamaCare that I could use if I needed to, about 90 all together (and dozens more if counting the cases where multiple sources are given for a single footnote). Anyway, this is less detailed than what I wrote there. --[[User:Jzyehoshua|Joshua Zambrano]] 14:22, 30 July 2012 (EDT)
As a sidenote, a lot of this research I actually did back in 2010 for an eBook I wrote for the elections that year.[http://www.slideshare.net/Jzyehoshua/the-zambrano-report] Many of the sources are re-used from Chapter 3, pages 87-114. I actually have even more sources provided there relating to ObamaCare that I could use if I needed to, about 90 all together (and dozens more if counting the cases where multiple sources are given for a single footnote). Anyway, this is less detailed than what I wrote there. --[[User:Jzyehoshua|Joshua Zambrano]] 14:22, 30 July 2012 (EDT)