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I think the 90/10 rule needs either serious clarification or to be deleted altogether. Recently it led to a case where a user (AcomaMagic) was banned for making 3 talk page comments out of 4 total. Apparently, the rule can be used to ban someone at any point, even if they have only made a single edit. There's a huge potential for abuse with this rule, as it allows banning for any reason or no reason if a user makes only 1 or 2 talk page edits that a moderator disagrees with. In this case, AcomaMagic did not even exceed 90% talk page edits, and had made just 75% talk page edits.  

I think the 90/10 rule needs either serious clarification or to be deleted altogether. Recently it led to a case where a user (AcomaMagic) was banned for making 3 talk page comments out of 4 total. Apparently, the rule can be used to ban someone at any point, even if they have only made a single edit. There's a huge potential for abuse with this rule, as it allows banning for any reason or no reason if a user makes only 1 or 2 talk page edits that a moderator disagrees with. In this case, AcomaMagic did not even exceed 90% talk page edits, and had made just 75% talk page edits.  

I would support replacing this rule with another stating that banning is allowed for changing Wikipedia pages to support evolution or other liberal agendas. Because that's what AcomaMagic was really banned for, making a change supportive of evolution. The policy could say something like "Support for such liberal agendas as evolution should be discussed on debate topics, not on article talk pages, and articles should not be changed to reflect such changes." At least that way it will be clear to everyone what the standard is, no liberal talking points made in articles or on article pages.  

I would support replacing this rule with another stating that banning is allowed for changing Conservapedia pages to support evolution or other liberal agendas. Because that's what AcomaMagic was really banned for, making a change supportive of evolution. The policy could say something like "Support for such liberal agendas as evolution should be discussed on debate topics, not on article talk pages, and articles should not be changed to reflect such changes." At least that way it will be clear to everyone what the standard is, no liberal talking points made in articles or on article pages.  

But this 90/10 rule is senseless. It can be used to ban anybody at any time by anyone for any reason. It needs to either go or undergo a serious revamp, like defining how many total edits are required for rule violation. I think at least 50 edits should be required before the rule can be violated, otherwise it allows banning new users if they say anything that's disagreed with. Clearly 90% is not even a line in the sand right now either, as the aforementioned user was banned for 75% talk page edits over a 4-edit period. That's ridiculous. If the site wants to ban users for pro-liberal viewpoints or page changes that's fine, but at least clearly state it in policy. That still leaves no explanation for a silly rule like the 90/10, which is acting as a catch-all to allow moderators to ban whoever they feel like. --[[User:JZambrano|Joshua Zambrano]] 07:57, 4 September 2012 (EDT)

But this 90/10 rule is senseless. It can be used to ban anybody at any time by anyone for any reason. It needs to either go or undergo a serious revamp, like defining how many total edits are required for rule violation. I think at least 50 edits should be required before the rule can be violated, otherwise it allows banning new users if they say anything that's disagreed with. Clearly 90% is not even a line in the sand right now either, as the aforementioned user was banned for 75% talk page edits over a 4-edit period. That's ridiculous. If the site wants to ban users for pro-liberal viewpoints or page changes that's fine, but at least clearly state it in policy. That still leaves no explanation for a silly rule like the 90/10, which is acting as a catch-all to allow moderators to ban whoever they feel like. --[[User:JZambrano|Joshua Zambrano]] 07:57, 4 September 2012 (EDT)