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:As to whether Biblical scholars agree, how many of those professors voted for Obama?  Perhaps 90% of professors are [[liberals]], and they are unlikely to agree with many original meanings that are [[conservative]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:06, 5 September 2012 (EDT)
 
:As to whether Biblical scholars agree, how many of those professors voted for Obama?  Perhaps 90% of professors are [[liberals]], and they are unlikely to agree with many original meanings that are [[conservative]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:06, 5 September 2012 (EDT)
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::*Read above: it's not about the "ἰδού καὶ", it's about the καὶ - καὶ - καὶ. The ἰδού just happens to appear in the verse and its translation is omitted by those who choose to start the verse as "Suddenly..." or "At that time..".
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::*It's about the Bible - it is worth to be exact  or ''nitpicky'' (in fact we can't afford to be sloppy).
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::*It's not only about scholars agreeing - it's about you being the only one having another opinion than all these scholars for the last five hundred years!
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::*your translation of  ἰδού is unprecedented. Taking such a revolutionary step should be better motivated than just saying "I don't vote for Obama".
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::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 18:16, 5 September 2012 (EDT)
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