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:::John is clearly talking about "us", but the Greek style had not developed that improvement in writing style, to the point of using awkward constructs to avoid any first-person reference.  Using "world" instead of "us" today adds too much distortion than can be justified.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:25, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
 
:::John is clearly talking about "us", but the Greek style had not developed that improvement in writing style, to the point of using awkward constructs to avoid any first-person reference.  Using "world" instead of "us" today adds too much distortion than can be justified.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:25, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
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::::What are you talking about? Quotation marks? John could have said: "Οὕτω γὰρ ἠγάπησεν ὁ Θεὸς ἡμᾶς..." But he didn't. Why? Because it would have been inconsistent with the rest of the gospel. As inconsistent as your translation. Who is the ''we'' you are talking about? Again, you are changing the position of the narrator of the gospel, you make him one of ''us'', while John took care to report the events impersonally. You are rewriting the gospel!
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:::: [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 12:15, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
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