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Talk:John 1-7 (Translated) (view source)
Revision as of 20:22, September 22, 2012
, 20:22, September 22, 2012→Strange change of perspective
:"men" doesn't work for "κόσμον" in [[#3:16|John 3:16]], because it excludes most of the world's population. Translating "κόσμον" as "the inhabitants of earth" is better, but is verbose and clumsy, and raises the false implication non-human inhabitants. "Us" conveys the original meaning best among the alternatives. As to your analogy, the expectation would be that God would love all His creation, but individuals as subjects would not carry that same expectation.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:13, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
:"men" doesn't work for "κόσμον" in [[#3:16|John 3:16]], because it excludes most of the world's population. Translating "κόσμον" as "the inhabitants of earth" is better, but is verbose and clumsy, and raises the false implication non-human inhabitants. "Us" conveys the original meaning best among the alternatives. As to your analogy, the expectation would be that God would love all His creation, but individuals as subjects would not carry that same expectation.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:13, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
::One suggestion might be to use "humanity," and thereby avoid the potential misreading of "us" as implying the existence of a "them" whom God did not love while maintaining a focus away from a broad reading of passage that would mistakenly have it take on an environmentalist tone.[[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 16:15, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
::One suggestion might be to use "humanity," and thereby avoid the potential misreading of "us" as implying the existence of a "them" whom God did not love while maintaining a focus away from a broad reading of passage that would mistakenly have it take on an environmentalist tone.[[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 16:15, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
Romans 5:5: ''ἡ δὲ ἐλπὶς οὐ καταισχύνει, ὅτι ἡ ἀγάπη τοῦ θεοῦ ἐκκέχυται ἐν ταῖς καρδίαις ἡμῶν διὰ πνεύματος ἁγίου τοῦ δοθέντος ἡμῖν.'' Isn't it f fantastic how fast the Greek language improved its writing style and doesn't need any longer awkward constructs to avoid any first-person reference? Aschlafy, you are seeming to make things up! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:22, 22 September 2012 (EDT)