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Line 780: − − == The million death figure == − − The only way you could approach that number would be to factor in all the deaths created by WWII in China and the USSR, all the deaths caused by sectarian violence between Chinese nationalists, and all the deaths caused by incidental famines and mismanagement of communist regimes. While there were undoubtedly deaths as a result of Leninist (and later Stalinist) ideology (which many would argue is not Marxist since it does not follow the ideal set out by Marx), you cannot simply say "X number of people died under communist governments, therefore they are bad." If that were the case you could take the millions killed in the innumerable wars in Europe, any number of the millions killed by Islam, the millions killed by America in its expansion into North America, and then declare that all Christian nations are bad because their death toll rises into the billions. The logic of these numbers is ridiculous. [[User:EricIbar|EricIbar]] 16:04, 31 January 2013 (EST)
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As said above, [[Ayn Rand]] is a famous libertarian and inspiration for the Tea Party movement, and she was an atheist '''''and''''' an '''anti-communist'''. It is the '''''totalitarian''''' atheism of Marxism that is violent - it is not a matter of freedom to be non-religious, but is a matter of being be '''''forced''''' to be an atheist while hypocritically worshipping Marx and Lenin who are idols in communism. Why not have the intro focus on the fact that communism is based on the violent jealousy of people who have wealth?--[[User:TheQuestioner|TheQuestioner]] 13:19, 3 August 2012 (EDT)
As said above, [[Ayn Rand]] is a famous libertarian and inspiration for the Tea Party movement, and she was an atheist '''''and''''' an '''anti-communist'''. It is the '''''totalitarian''''' atheism of Marxism that is violent - it is not a matter of freedom to be non-religious, but is a matter of being be '''''forced''''' to be an atheist while hypocritically worshipping Marx and Lenin who are idols in communism. Why not have the intro focus on the fact that communism is based on the violent jealousy of people who have wealth?--[[User:TheQuestioner|TheQuestioner]] 13:19, 3 August 2012 (EDT)
== The million death figure ==
== The million death figure ==
The only way you could approach that number would be to factor in all the deaths created by WWII in China and the USSR, all the deaths caused by sectarian violence between Chinese nationalists, and all the deaths caused by incidental famines and mismanagement of communist regimes. While there were undoubtedly deaths as a result of Leninist (and later Stalinist) ideology (which many would argue is not Marxist since it does not follow the ideal set out by Marx), you cannot simply say "X number of people died under communist governments, therefore they are bad." If that were the case you could take the millions killed in the innumerable wars in Europe, any number of the millions killed by Islam, the millions killed by America in its expansion into North America, and then declare that all Christian nations are bad because their death toll rises into the billions. The logic of these numbers is ridiculous. [[User:EricIbar|EricIbar]] 16:04, 31 January 2013 (EST)
The only way you could approach that number would be to factor in all the deaths created by WWII in China and the USSR, all the deaths caused by sectarian violence between Chinese nationalists, and all the deaths caused by incidental famines and mismanagement of communist regimes. While there were undoubtedly deaths as a result of Leninist (and later Stalinist) ideology (which many would argue is not Marxist since it does not follow the ideal set out by Marx), you cannot simply say "X number of people died under communist governments, therefore they are bad." If that were the case you could take the millions killed in the innumerable wars in Europe, any number of the millions killed by Islam, the millions killed by America in its expansion into North America, and then declare that all Christian nations are bad because their death toll rises into the billions. The logic of these numbers is ridiculous. [[User:EricIbar|EricIbar]] 16:04, 31 January 2013 (EST)