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Talk:Mark 1-8 (Translated) (view source)
Revision as of 10:20, February 6, 2013
, 10:20, February 6, 2013→Mark 1:11: value vs. well-pleased
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== Diacritic Marks ==
== Diacritic Marks ==
At sometime in the past, the article [[Gospel of Mark (Translated)]] was split into two parts: [[Mark 1-8 (Translated)]] and [[Mark 9-16 (Translated)]]. At the moment, the talk-pages of these new articles both redirect to [[Talk:Gospel of Mark (Translated)]]. That's confusing and now would be a good time to rectify this problem: Most of the old talk-page comments to Mark 1-16 can be found in [[Talk:Gospel of Mark (Translated)/Archive 1]]. So what could be more natural to get rid of the redirect on [[Talk:Mark 1-8 (Translated)]] and [[Talk:Mark 9-16 (Translated)]], but link at the top of the pages to the common archive? This way, the (page-tab) on top of the talk-pages would be usable! --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:00, 27 January 2013 (EST)
At sometime in the past, the article [[Gospel of Mark (Translated)]] was split into two parts: [[Mark 1-8 (Translated)]] and [[Mark 9-16 (Translated)]]. At the moment, the talk-pages of these new articles both redirect to [[Talk:Gospel of Mark (Translated)]]. That's confusing and now would be a good time to rectify this problem: Most of the old talk-page comments to Mark 1-16 can be found in [[Talk:Gospel of Mark (Translated)/Archive 1]]. So what could be more natural to get rid of the redirect on [[Talk:Mark 1-8 (Translated)]] and [[Talk:Mark 9-16 (Translated)]], but link at the top of the pages to the common archive? This way, the (page-tab) on top of the talk-pages would be usable! --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:00, 27 January 2013 (EST)
== Mark 1:3 ==
== Mark 1:3 ==
I agree with the annotation: ''The wilderness is a metaphor for the unrepentant crowd.'' But when did we start to substitute metaphors with the intended meaning? The picture can be translated very well into English, any reader can be helped by the annotation, any preacher can interpreted it the right way. Indeed, CBP's current version is more of an interpretation than a translation. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:23, 27 January 2013 (EST)
I agree with the annotation: ''The wilderness is a metaphor for the unrepentant crowd.'' But when did we start to substitute metaphors with the intended meaning? The picture can be translated very well into English, any reader can be helped by the annotation, any preacher can interpreted it the right way. Indeed, CBP's current version is more of an interpretation than a translation. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:23, 27 January 2013 (EST)
== Mark 1:4 ==
"'', John was baptizing in the desert, preaching repentance and the forgiveness of sins. ''"
That's not what the verse says: βάπτισμα μετανοίας εἰς ἄφεσιν has a structure - it is a baptism '''of''' repentance '''for''' forgiveness!
--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 06:04, 22 January 2013 (EST)
== Mark 1:6 ==
== Mark 1:6 ==
--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 03:25, 27 January 2013 (EST)
--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 03:25, 27 January 2013 (EST)
== Mark 1:11 ==
The current translation for σὺ εἶ ὁ υἱός μου ὁ ἀγαπητός, ἐν σοὶ εὐδόκησα is "You are my beloved Son whom I value greatly." I object to the use of "to value" instead of "to be (well) pleased":
*for "to value", the author would have used a word like τιμάω, but not εὐδοκέω.
*I couldn't find any other translation which uses a word similar to value: most go for "I'm (well) pleased/delighted".
--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 05:20, 6 February 2013 (EST)
== Diacritic Marks ==
Diacritic marks are often let out just because of technical difficulties. An easy way around this problem is to get setting for polytonic Greek for your keyboard. Anybody who has learned classical or Biblical Greek knows hwo helpful and necessary these marks are, so I try to add them whenever possible. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:50, 27 January 2013 (EST)
== Transliteration vs. phontic spelling ==
At a few places someone erroneously used the ''phonetic spelling'' instead of the usual transliteration. I'll fix it! --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:53, 27 January 2013 (EST)
== Redirect of the talk-page ==
At sometime in the past, the article [[Gospel of Mark (Translated)]] was split into two parts: [[Mark 1-8 (Translated)]] and [[Mark 9-16 (Translated)]]. At the moment, the talk-pages of these new articles both redirect to [[Talk:Gospel of Mark (Translated)]]. That's confusing and now would be a good time to rectify this problem: Most of the old talk-page comments to Mark 1-16 can be found in [[Talk:Gospel of Mark (Translated)/Archive 1]]. So what could be more natural to get rid of the redirect on [[Talk:Mark 1-8 (Translated)]] and [[Talk:Mark 9-16 (Translated)]], but link at the top of the pages to the common archive? This way, the (page-tab) on top of the talk-pages would be usable! --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:00, 27 January 2013 (EST)
== Mark 2:22 - unwarranted teetotalling ==
== Mark 2:22 - unwarranted teetotalling ==