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Adolf Hitler was not a socialist.  This is just simply not true.  Please remove the large picture of Hitler, it does not reflect socialism in any way.

Adolf Hitler was not a socialist.  This is just simply not true.  Please remove the large picture of Hitler, it does not reflect socialism in any way.

I agree that this picture should be replaced with someone else who is a truly representative icon within the socialist movement. While Hitler may indeed have been a socialist as his party's name suggests, unless i'm mistaken, aside from his party, no socialist considers him to be  to be representative of their philosophy. So it would indeed seem at the very least inappropriate to use his picture to be representative of all socialism. From what i've read socialists are a diverse group that even has Christian, Jewish, Islamic sections. This picture, at best, makes us look like we're using Nazi Imagery to demonize a particular philosophy, at worst makes us look childish. I suggest we replace this picture with either a historical or contemporary icon for the good of the project. I would do it myself, but I'm a novice at wikia editing and I think the admins would never tolerate such a change. [[user:dsherman]]

I agree that this picture should be replaced with someone else who is a truly representative icon within the socialist movement. While Hitler may indeed have been a socialist as his party's name suggests, unless i'm mistaken, aside from his party, no socialist considers him to be  to be representative of their philosophy. So it would indeed seem at the very least inappropriate to use his picture to be representative of all socialism. From what i've read socialists are a diverse group that even has Christian, Jewish, Islamic sections. This picture, at best, makes us look like we're using Nazi Imagery to demonize a particular philosophy, at worst makes us look childish. I suggest we replace this picture with either a historical or contemporary icon for the good of the project. I would do it myself, but I'm a novice at wikia editing and I think the admins would never tolerate such a change. [[user:dsherman]]

::Adolf Hitler was the head of the National''' <big>Socialist</big>''' German Workers Party.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 20:45, 2 March 2013 (EST)

::Adolf Hitler was the head of the National''' <big>Socialist</big>''' German Workers Party.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 20:45, 2 March 2013 (EST)

We are a long way from the issue that started this section.  I tend to agree in general with Conservative that the distinctions between socialism and fascism are mainly illusory.  They have differing appeals and they make out like they are enemies and fundamentally opposed to each other, but I think that at root they result in the same sort of society.  Their intellectual underpinnings (if one is to be charitable) is the fundamental distinction.  Fascism marketed itself as counter-revolutionary, a throwback to the past, whereas Socialism considered itself to be revolutionary, and as a means to overthrow the past injustices.   

We are a long way from the issue that started this section.  I tend to agree in general with Conservative that the distinctions between socialism and fascism are mainly illusory.  They have differing appeals and they make out like they are enemies and fundamentally opposed to each other, but I think that at root they result in the same sort of society.  Their intellectual underpinnings (if one is to be charitable) is the fundamental distinction.  Fascism marketed itself as counter-revolutionary, a throwback to the past, whereas Socialism considered itself to be revolutionary, and as a means to overthrow the past injustices.   

Still, even if we agree that there are similarities between socialism and fascism, I have not read a coherent argument as to why a photo of Hitler should be so prominent in this article.  Perhaps we should go back to discussing that issue rather than the philosophical implications.  --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 16:57, 3 March 2013 (EST)

Still, even if we agree that there are similarities between socialism and fascism, I have not read a coherent argument as to why a photo of Hitler should be so prominent in this article.  Perhaps we should go back to discussing that issue rather than the philosophical implications.  --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 16:57, 3 March 2013 (EST)