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:'''''Liberal''' in its secular meaning, describes someone who favors personal [[freedom]] in all its forms<ref>Etymology [http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=liberal]</ref>, as long as it does not conflict with the freedom of others ''
 
:'''''Liberal''' in its secular meaning, describes someone who favors personal [[freedom]] in all its forms<ref>Etymology [http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=liberal]</ref>, as long as it does not conflict with the freedom of others ''
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There is little, ort no difference between the two; an editor posted on [[Talk:Political spectrum#Criticisms of a one-dimensional view]] this proposed language for that article,
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There is little, or no difference between the two; an editor posted on [[Talk:Political spectrum#Criticisms of a one-dimensional view]] this proposed language for that article,
    
:''[[libertarian]]s say that their point of view - advocating personal freedom in all its forms, as long as it does not conflict with the freedom of others, is not a left-wing or right-wing position.''
 
:''[[libertarian]]s say that their point of view - advocating personal freedom in all its forms, as long as it does not conflict with the freedom of others, is not a left-wing or right-wing position.''
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So, to avoid and further confusion on all these issues, I have made a reversion.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 14:07, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
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So, to avoid any further confusion on all these issues, I have made a reversion.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 14:07, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
    
== Andy... falsehoods? ==
 
== Andy... falsehoods? ==
    
Andy, I can't find anything wrong with the paragraph that you deleted.  It properly contrasts the difference between "liberal" in the classical economic sense, and "liberal" in the TV-punditry sense.  It also appropriately treated the civil rights era.  Is the only thing wrong with that paragraph that you don't like it's implications?-'''<font color="#007FFF">Ames</font><font color="#FF0000">G</font>'''<sub>[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:AmesG yo!]</sub> 11:47, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
 
Andy, I can't find anything wrong with the paragraph that you deleted.  It properly contrasts the difference between "liberal" in the classical economic sense, and "liberal" in the TV-punditry sense.  It also appropriately treated the civil rights era.  Is the only thing wrong with that paragraph that you don't like it's implications?-'''<font color="#007FFF">Ames</font><font color="#FF0000">G</font>'''<sub>[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:AmesG yo!]</sub> 11:47, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
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