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→Does an atheist conservative have any place here?
--[[User:Patmac|Patmac]] 16:59, 2 May 2013 (EDT)
--[[User:Patmac|Patmac]] 16:59, 2 May 2013 (EDT)
:Anyone is free to define words however they like. It seems to me that it is a contradiction in terms for one to be a Conservative and yet not a Christian. Anyone who is not a Christian is by definition a liberal. There are no ifs or butts about this, except that some attempt to dilute the meaning of conservative for political gain. Such attempts are given short shrift here. --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 22:21, 2 May 2013 (EDT)
:Anyone is free to define words however they like. It seems to me that it is a contradiction in terms for one to be a Conservative and yet not a Christian. Anyone who is not a Christian is by definition a liberal. There are no ifs or butts about this, except that some attempt to dilute the meaning of conservative for political gain. Such attempts are given short shrift here. --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 22:21, 2 May 2013 (EDT)
::Individual liberty, fiscal responsibility, freedom from heavy tax burden, right to bear arms, and freedom of religion don't seem to be exclusive to Christianity, why do you have to be a Christian to support any of that? You don't need to be a Christian to recognize that these principles are the cornerstone of the human condition, and promote the greatest success possible for a country. [[User:KatieKomori|KatieKomori]] 10:26, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
::Anyone who is not a Christian is by definition a liberal?
::Anyone who is not a Christian is by definition a liberal?
::It only takes one example to prove something wrong and here is my example to you: Osama bin-Laden. Now how was he a liberal? I would like to point out that I am not an athiest, I am a fully paid up member of the CofE, although I guess that makes me a liberal christain, which according to the [[oxymoron]] page is an oxymoron itself.--[[User:Patmac|Patmac]] 22:46, 2 May 2013 (EDT)
::It only takes one example to prove something wrong and here is my example to you: Osama bin-Laden. Now how was he a liberal? I would like to point out that I am not an athiest, I am a fully paid up member of the CofE, although I guess that makes me a liberal christain, which according to the [[oxymoron]] page is an oxymoron itself.--[[User:Patmac|Patmac]] 22:46, 2 May 2013 (EDT)
KatieKomori, you are a [[libertarian]] and not a [[conservative]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 02:48, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
KatieKomori, you are a [[libertarian]] and not a [[conservative]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 02:48, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
::I am a libertarian, but I don't think that excludes me from being a conservative as well. I don't care about social conservatism because to be honest, it seems pretty worthless and pointless to me. What's actually important is the economic future of America, which is what's actually under attack right now. Maybe the liberals are succeeding because we're focusing on silly things like pornography and homosexuality...when there's REAL problems that need to be solved... [[User:KatieKomori|KatieKomori]] 10:26, 3 May 2013 (EDT)