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::Ryansch, I am willing to collaborate with you on a [[Atheism and politics]] article which could be partly or wholly inserted in the main atheism article. It has to be factual though and cannot make unsupported assertions such as atheist conservatives are the silent majority. Every claim must have a citation too. I cannot give you a timetable on when it will be inserted though but I did pledge to the owner of Conservapedia that I would create or help create such an article and insert some of its content into the main article. Please also create a [[Secular left]], [[Atheism and libertarianism]], etc. etc. articles too if you are so inclined.  Also, is the second paragraph of the [[atheism]] article true? If not, why not? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 00:15, 8 June 2013 (EDT)

::Ryansch, I am willing to collaborate with you on a [[Atheism and politics]] article which could be partly or wholly inserted in the main atheism article. It has to be factual though and cannot make unsupported assertions such as atheist conservatives are the silent majority. Every claim must have a citation too. I cannot give you a timetable on when it will be inserted though but I did pledge to the owner of Conservapedia that I would create or help create such an article and insert some of its content into the main article. Please also create a [[Secular left]], [[Atheism and libertarianism]], etc. etc. articles too if you are so inclined.  Also, is the second paragraph of the [[atheism]] article true? If not, why not? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 00:15, 8 June 2013 (EDT)

:::I would be glad to help create an [[Atheism and politics]] as well as a [[Secular left]] article. Unless I have misunderstood the question, I believe you are referring to the paragraph dealing with the link between the 1917 Bolshevik revolution and Atheism. It is true that The Bolsheviks were militant atheists as well as the radicals in the french revolution. However, I would like to point to their reasons. Communism was only Atheist because it saw religion as a threat. Any totalitarian state wants to destroy any and all opposition. It should be noted that the Orthodox Church used to be fervent supports of the Tsar and were one of the few people who supported him in the initial October revolution. In addition, the Orthodox church contained vast wealth, something that the communists despised and wanted rid of. To be honest Marxist‒Leninist atheism is a whole different branch of Atheism in itself, a bit like New Atheism, Atheism 2.0 and, to an extent, American Atheism (which seems to run in a tangent to that in Western Europe). When making links like these it would be wise to be cautious because making links between these groups and Atheism would be like making links between the Westboro Baptist church and mainstream Christianity. [[User:Ryancsh|Ryancsh]] 8 June 2013 15:08 GMT

:::I would be glad to help create an [[Atheism and politics]] as well as a [[Secular left]] article. Unless I have misunderstood the question, I believe you are referring to the paragraph dealing with the link between the 1917 Bolshevik revolution and Atheism. It is true that The Bolsheviks were militant atheists as well as the radicals in the french revolution. However, I would like to point to their reasons. Communism was only Atheist because it saw religion as a threat. Any totalitarian state wants to destroy any and all opposition. It should be noted that the Orthodox Church used to be fervent supports of the Tsar and were one of the few people who supported him in the initial October revolution. In addition, the Orthodox church contained vast wealth, something that the communists despised and wanted rid of. To be honest Marxist‒Leninist atheism is a whole different branch of Atheism in itself, a bit like New Atheism, Atheism 2.0 and, to an extent, American Atheism (which seems to run in a tangent to that in Western Europe). When making links like these it would be wise to be cautious because making links between these groups and Atheism would be like making links between the Westboro Baptist church and mainstream Christianity. [[User:Ryancsh|Ryancsh]] 8 June 2013 15:08 GMT

If you could find survey data on what percentage of atheists are left of center politically in terms of fiscal policy, it would be helpful. It seems that both libertarian atheists and secular leftist both oppose social conservatism. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 11:32, 8 June 2013 (EDT)

If you could find survey data on what percentage of atheists are left of center politically in terms of fiscal policy, it would be helpful. Alternatively, a quote from a credible source about this matter would suffice. It seems that both libertarian atheists and secular leftist both oppose social conservatism. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 11:32, 8 June 2013 (EDT)