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[[Image:Cerebellum.jpg|right|thumb|170px|[[Medical science]] research indicates that excess weight impairs brain function.<ref name="psychonline">http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/content/41/18/25.1.full</ref><ref name="waistlines">http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/brain-and-behavior/articles/2009/08/25/as-waistlines-widen-brains-shrink.html</ref> ]]

[[Image:Cerebellum.jpg|right|thumb|170px|[[Medical science]] research indicates that excess weight impairs brain function.<ref name="psychonline">http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/content/41/18/25.1.full</ref><ref name="waistlines">http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/brain-and-behavior/articles/2009/08/25/as-waistlines-widen-brains-shrink.html</ref> ]]

A 2009 picture of a significantly overweight PZ Myers can be found [http://www.flickr.com/photos/cfimi/5244769742/ HERE].  A 2010 picture taken in Australia shows PZ Myers drinking ale/beer and he had excess weight in his abdominal area.<ref>http://www.flickr.com/photos/reuvenim/4426093513/</ref>  In 2010, PZ Myers had health problems related to his heart.<ref>http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/08/thats_not_a_heart_its_a_flaili.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+scienceblogs%2Fpharyngula+%28Pharyngula%29&utm_content=Google+Reader</ref> In addition, [[medical science]] research indicates that excess weight impairs brain function.<ref name="psychonline" /><ref name="waistlines" /> Given PZ Myers' biological training and the wide dissemination of the [[Physical and mental health related problems associated with obesity|harmful health effects of being overweight]] in terms of cardiovascular health and brain function, it is unfortunate that preventative medicine was not used in greater measure in terms of his health.<ref name="psychonline" /><ref name="waistlines" /><ref>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21121834</ref> PZ Myers inattention to diligently implementing the recommendations of [[nutritional science]], [[exercise science]] and [[medical science]] is not entirely surprising given his vehement advocacy of [[evolution|evolutionary pseudoscience]]. There have been a [[Evolutionists who have had problems with being overweight and/or obese|number of notable evolutionists who have been overweight]]. In addition, the [[Atheism and obesity|atheist community appears to have problems with obesity.]] On June 1, 2011, Myers posted a picture of himself and others on his blog and Myers appeared to no longer have issues with being overweight.<ref>http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/06/the_final_tally_on_the_camp_qu.php</ref>

A 2009 picture of a significantly overweight PZ Myers can be found [http://www.flickr.com/photos/cfimi/5244769742/ HERE].  A 2010 picture taken in Australia shows PZ Myers drinking ale/beer and he had excess weight in his abdominal area.<ref>http://www.flickr.com/photos/reuvenim/4426093513/</ref>  In 2010, PZ Myers had health problems related to his heart.<ref>[http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/08/23/thats-not-a-heart-its-a-flaili/ That’s not a heart! It’s a flailing Engine of Destruction!]</ref> In addition, [[medical science]] research indicates that excess weight impairs brain function.<ref>[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19816410 BMI and neuronal integrity in healthy, cognitively normal elderly: a proton magnetic resonance spectroscopy study]</ref><ref name="waistlines" /> Given PZ Myers' biological training and the wide dissemination of the [[Physical and mental health related problems associated with obesity|harmful health effects of being overweight]] in terms of cardiovascular health and brain function, it is unfortunate that preventative medicine was not used in greater measure in terms of his health.<ref name="psychonline" /><ref name="waistlines" /><ref>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21121834</ref> PZ Myers inattention to diligently implementing the recommendations of [[nutritional science]], [[exercise science]] and [[medical science]] is not entirely surprising given his vehement advocacy of [[evolution|evolutionary pseudoscience]]. There have been a [[Evolutionists who have had problems with being overweight and/or obese|number of notable evolutionists who have been overweight]]. In addition, the [[Atheism and obesity|atheist community appears to have problems with obesity.]] On June 1, 2011, Myers posted a picture of himself and others on his blog and Myers appeared to no longer have issues with being overweight.<ref>[http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/06/01/the-final-tally-on-the-camp-qu/ The Final Tally on the Camp Quest race: I win!]</ref>

=== New atheism leadership's problem with being overweight ===

=== New atheism leadership's problem with being overweight ===

''See also:'' [[Overweight atheist PZ Myers posing with some young overweight fans]]

''See also:'' [[Overweight atheist PZ Myers posing with some young overweight fans]]

In 2011, the [[theism|theist]] [[Vox Day]] had an individual complain about the notion that the atheist community has a problem with obesity (Please see: [[Atheism and obesity]]). As a result, on May 19, 2011, Vox Day released a blog post entitled ''Mailvox: now, who said atheists are fat?'' where 80% of the people taking a picture with PZ Myers were overweight and PZ Myers was overweight in the picture as well as can be seen [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/05/at_least_you_can_see_a_hint_of.php HERE.]<ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011/05/mailvox-now-who-said-atheists-are-fat.html MailVox: Who said atheists are fat?].</ref>  The picture was originally posted on PZ Myer's blog [[Pharyngula (blog)|Pharyngula]] by Myers on May 16, 2011 and an online argument quickly ensued concerning the appearance of the photograph's participants.<ref>[http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/05/at_least_you_can_see_a_hint_of.php At least you can see a hint of what you missed]</ref>

In 2011, the [[theism|theist]] [[Vox Day]] had an individual complain about the notion that the atheist community has a problem with obesity (Please see: [[Atheism and obesity]]). As a result, on May 19, 2011, Vox Day released a blog post entitled ''Mailvox: now, who said atheists are fat?'' where 80% of the people taking a picture with PZ Myers were overweight and PZ Myers was overweight in the picture as well as can be seen [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/05/16/at-least-you-can-see-a-hint-of/ HERE].<ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011/05/mailvox-now-who-said-atheists-are-fat.html MailVox: Who said atheists are fat?].</ref>  The picture was originally posted on PZ Myer's blog [[Pharyngula (blog)|Pharyngula]] by Myers on May 16, 2011 and an online argument quickly ensued concerning the appearance of the photograph's participants.<ref>[http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/05/16/at-least-you-can-see-a-hint-of/ At least you can see a hint of what you missed

Posted by PZ Myers on May 16, 2011]</ref>

== Speech at the 2010 Global Atheist Convention ==

== Speech at the 2010 Global Atheist Convention ==

On August 28, 2011, Vox Day declared concerning Myers:

On August 28, 2011, Vox Day declared concerning Myers:

{{cquote|What you clearly do not understand is that, [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/05/we_arent_angry_were_effective.php by his own admission], PZ relies heavily upon emotional arguments rather than logical ones when he cannot simply appeal to an established scientific consensus. "I'll also cop to the obvious fact that, knowing that reason will not get through their skills, I'm happy to use emotional arguments as well. Passion is persuasive." His tendency to rely upon emotional rhetoric and passion rather than reason is precisely why he is afraid to debate people who rely primarily upon logic, because his ability to present reason-based arguments is relatively low. His ability to utilize reason is simply not equal to the skill of others who make use of it more effectively. PZ is without question an effective preacher to the godless choir of science fetishists, but he is remarkably unskilled at presenting convincing arguments, let alone conclusive ones, to those who do not already agree with him. Unlike you, he knows he is not an effective evangelist.<ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011/08/can-one-dodge-dodger.html Can one dodge a dodger?]</ref>}}

{{cquote|What you clearly do not understand is that, by his own admission, PZ relies heavily upon emotional arguments rather than logical ones when he cannot simply appeal to an established scientific consensus. "I'll also cop to the obvious fact that, knowing that reason will not get through their skills, I'm happy to use emotional arguments as well. Passion is persuasive." His tendency to rely upon emotional rhetoric and passion rather than reason is precisely why he is afraid to debate people who rely primarily upon logic, because his ability to present reason-based arguments is relatively low. His ability to utilize reason is simply not equal to the skill of others who make use of it more effectively. PZ is without question an effective preacher to the godless choir of science fetishists, but he is remarkably unskilled at presenting convincing arguments, let alone conclusive ones, to those who do not already agree with him. Unlike you, he knows he is not an effective evangelist.<ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011/08/can-one-dodge-dodger.html Can one dodge a dodger?]</ref>}}

== PZ Myers' blog audience  ==

== PZ Myers' blog audience  ==

In 2010, the [[Christian apologetics]] website [[True Free Thinker]] wrote:

In 2010, the [[Christian apologetics]] website [[True Free Thinker]] wrote:

{{cquote|Scienceblogger [http://scienceblogs.com/principles/2008/04/the_cost_of_not_framing.php Chad Orzel described] the commentators on PZ Myers ' Scienceblogs.com site [[Pharyngula (blog)|Pharyngula]], and other Scienceblogs.com commentators, as "screechy monkeys."<ref>http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/pz-myers-and-pavlovs-monkeys</ref>}}

{{cquote|Scienceblogger Chad Orzel described  the commentators on PZ Myers ' Scienceblogs.com site [[Pharyngula (blog)|Pharyngula]], and other Scienceblogs.com commentators, as "screechy monkeys."<ref>http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/pz-myers-and-pavlovs-monkeys</ref>}}

A somewhat similar report was made concerning the audience of [[Richard Dawkins]]'s web community. In February of 2010, the news organization ''The Telegraph'' reported that the [[atheism|atheist]] and [[evolution|evolutionist]] [[Richard Dawkins]] was embroiled "in a bitter online battle over plans to rid his popular internet forum for atheists of foul language, insults and 'frivolous gossip'."<ref>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/7322177/Richard-Dawkins-in-bitter-web-censorship-row-with-fellow-atheists.html</ref>  In addition, Richard Dawkins [[Abrasiveness of Richard Dawkins|has a reputation for being abrasive]].

A somewhat similar report was made concerning the audience of [[Richard Dawkins]]'s web community. In February of 2010, the news organization ''The Telegraph'' reported that the [[atheism|atheist]] and [[evolution|evolutionist]] [[Richard Dawkins]] was embroiled "in a bitter online battle over plans to rid his popular internet forum for atheists of foul language, insults and 'frivolous gossip'."<ref>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/7322177/Richard-Dawkins-in-bitter-web-censorship-row-with-fellow-atheists.html</ref>  In addition, Richard Dawkins [[Abrasiveness of Richard Dawkins|has a reputation for being abrasive]].

{{cquote|Just a few years ago PZ Myers fellow Sciencebloggers were complaining about his general lack of substance and about his cult of personality amen chorus of adherents whom were dubbed the [http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/pz-myers-and-pavlovs-monkeys screechy monkeys].  PZ Myers should be thankful that Scienceblogs is not about science blogs and does not demand science on its Scienceblogs or else 99.9% of all posts on [http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/pz-myers-pseudoscienceblogscom his pseudo-science blog] would have to be deleted or, would have never been posted in the first place.

{{cquote|Just a few years ago PZ Myers fellow Sciencebloggers were complaining about his general lack of substance and about his cult of personality amen chorus of adherents whom were dubbed the [http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/pz-myers-and-pavlovs-monkeys screechy monkeys].  PZ Myers should be thankful that Scienceblogs is not about science blogs and does not demand science on its Scienceblogs or else 99.9% of all posts on [http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/pz-myers-pseudoscienceblogscom his pseudo-science blog] would have to be deleted or, would have never been posted in the first place.

Now it is [http://scienceblogs.com/commonknowledge/2010/07/of_pepsi_and_scienceblogs.php PZ Myers who is complaining] about his fellow Sciencebloggers as he states that Scienceblogs has been facing a steady erosion of talent. The key question is What sort of talent? Talented at doing what?

Now it is PZ Myers who is complaining about his fellow Sciencebloggers as he states that Scienceblogs has been facing a steady erosion of talent. The key question is What sort of talent? Talented at doing what?

If he references the talent to elucidate matters scientific then he is quite lacking himself.

If he references the talent to elucidate matters scientific then he is quite lacking himself.