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Line 22: − − == Atheist PZ Myers says atheists are largely a population of internet nerds and geeks == − − ''See also:'' [[Internet atheism]] and [[Atheism and marriage]] and [[Atheism and women]] − − In 2013, the PZ Myers declared: − {{cquote|If we're going to expand our base and we're going to draw in more people to recognize the virtues of living in a secular world, we need to appeal to more than just that geek and [[nerd]] subset of the population. We need to have a wider base. ...I seriously believe that we're on the cusp of a crisis. We're not there yet but it's looming in front of us. Will we adapt and thrive and change the world? Or will we remain an avocation for a prosperous and largely irrelevant subset of the population? Will we become something more than a scattered society of internet nerds? That's what we have to do.<ref>[http://www.evolutionnews.org/2013/04/in_seattle_pz_m070861.html in Seattle, PZ Myers Reflects Candidly on His Constituency]</ref>}} − − In response, ''Evolution News and Views'' wrote: − {{cquote|A crisis looms, in Myers's view, because he looks around himself and sees a not very promising basis for a mass movement. He's right. There is indeed a quality of geeky isolation from reality, common sense, and the fullness of life that I see as a motif in atheist and Darwin activism alike.<ref>[http://www.evolutionnews.org/2013/04/in_seattle_pz_m070861.html in Seattle, PZ Myers Reflects Candidly on His Constituency]</ref>}} − − == Banning of Thunderf00t from Freethoughtblogs == − − ''See also:'' [[Atheist factions]] − − On July 13, 2012 produced a video criticizing PZ Myers involvement in his banning from FreeThoughtbBlogs. The video accuses PZ Myers of a lack of integrity and engaging in censorship.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96FtpDLi_Vw FreeThoughtBlogs and PZ Myers]</ref> − − [[Vox Day]] wrote that [[Thunderf00t]]'s removal from Freethoughtblogs exemplified PZ Myers's unwillingness to intellectually engage his opponents and his lack of integrity.<ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/07/free-fascistthoughtblogs.html Vox Day on Freethoughtblogs]</ref> − − The issue which appeared to spark the contention was how to properly deal with the significant amount of [[misogny]] within the atheist community (see also: [[Atheism and women]] and [[Atheism and rape]] and [[Elevatorgate]] and [[Women's views of Richard Dawkins]] and [[Atheist leaders and immoral relationships]]).<ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/07/01/thunderf00t-check-your-email/ Thunderf00t, check your email - PZ Myers]</ref><ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuKH3trPpgY&list=UUmb8hO2ilV9vRa8cilis88A&index=1&feature=plcp Thunderf00t on how to handle misogny in the atheist community]</ref><ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/thunderf00t/2012/07/01/skepchickcon-and-the-harassment-lol-icy/ SkepchickCON and the Harassment LOL-icy]</ref><ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/thunderf00t/2012/06/29/is-it-freethoughtblogs-or-group-think-blogs/ Is it ‘Freethoughtblogs’ or ‘Group-think-blogs’?]</ref> − Line 69:
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It is my contention that evolution is, from a scientific perspective, an almost totally irrelevant sideshow. The number of scientists who have actually used evolution for anything over the last 150 years is dwarfed by the number of scientists who are still desperately trying to provide a scientific foundation for TENS. The only reason evolution is assumed to be of such presumed importance is due to its philosophical usefulness to [[materialism|materialist]] philosophers and pedopropagandists like [[Richard Dawkins]].<ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011/09/questions-for-evolutionists.html Questions for Evolutionist]</ref>}}
It is my contention that evolution is, from a scientific perspective, an almost totally irrelevant sideshow. The number of scientists who have actually used evolution for anything over the last 150 years is dwarfed by the number of scientists who are still desperately trying to provide a scientific foundation for TENS. The only reason evolution is assumed to be of such presumed importance is due to its philosophical usefulness to [[materialism|materialist]] philosophers and pedopropagandists like [[Richard Dawkins]].<ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011/09/questions-for-evolutionists.html Questions for Evolutionist]</ref>}}
== Health issues ==
== Health issues ==
In 2011, the [[theism|theist]] [[Vox Day]] had an individual complain about the notion that the atheist community has a problem with obesity (Please see: [[Atheism and obesity]]). As a result, on May 19, 2011, Vox Day released a blog post entitled ''Mailvox: now, who said atheists are fat?'' where 80% of the people taking a picture with PZ Myers were overweight and PZ Myers was overweight in the picture as well as can be seen [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/05/16/at-least-you-can-see-a-hint-of/ HERE].<ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011/05/mailvox-now-who-said-atheists-are-fat.html MailVox: Who said atheists are fat?].</ref> The picture was originally posted on PZ Myer's blog [[Pharyngula (blog)|Pharyngula]] by Myers on May 16, 2011 and an online argument quickly ensued concerning the appearance of the photograph's participants.<ref>[http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/05/16/at-least-you-can-see-a-hint-of/ At least you can see a hint of what you missed
In 2011, the [[theism|theist]] [[Vox Day]] had an individual complain about the notion that the atheist community has a problem with obesity (Please see: [[Atheism and obesity]]). As a result, on May 19, 2011, Vox Day released a blog post entitled ''Mailvox: now, who said atheists are fat?'' where 80% of the people taking a picture with PZ Myers were overweight and PZ Myers was overweight in the picture as well as can be seen [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/05/16/at-least-you-can-see-a-hint-of/ HERE].<ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011/05/mailvox-now-who-said-atheists-are-fat.html MailVox: Who said atheists are fat?].</ref> The picture was originally posted on PZ Myer's blog [[Pharyngula (blog)|Pharyngula]] by Myers on May 16, 2011 and an online argument quickly ensued concerning the appearance of the photograph's participants.<ref>[http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/05/16/at-least-you-can-see-a-hint-of/ At least you can see a hint of what you missed
Posted by PZ Myers on May 16, 2011]</ref>
Posted by PZ Myers on May 16, 2011]</ref>
== Atheist PZ Myers says atheists are largely a population of internet nerds and geeks ==
''See also:'' [[Internet atheism]] and [[Atheism and marriage]] and [[Atheism and women]]
In 2013, the PZ Myers declared:
{{cquote|If we're going to expand our base and we're going to draw in more people to recognize the virtues of living in a secular world, we need to appeal to more than just that geek and [[nerd]] subset of the population. We need to have a wider base. ...I seriously believe that we're on the cusp of a crisis. We're not there yet but it's looming in front of us. Will we adapt and thrive and change the world? Or will we remain an avocation for a prosperous and largely irrelevant subset of the population? Will we become something more than a scattered society of internet nerds? That's what we have to do.<ref>[http://www.evolutionnews.org/2013/04/in_seattle_pz_m070861.html in Seattle, PZ Myers Reflects Candidly on His Constituency]</ref>}}
In response, ''Evolution News and Views'' wrote:
{{cquote|A crisis looms, in Myers's view, because he looks around himself and sees a not very promising basis for a mass movement. He's right. There is indeed a quality of geeky isolation from reality, common sense, and the fullness of life that I see as a motif in atheist and Darwin activism alike.<ref>[http://www.evolutionnews.org/2013/04/in_seattle_pz_m070861.html in Seattle, PZ Myers Reflects Candidly on His Constituency]</ref>}}
== Banning of Thunderf00t from Freethoughtblogs ==
''See also:'' [[Atheist factions]]
On July 13, 2012 produced a video criticizing PZ Myers involvement in his banning from FreeThoughtbBlogs. The video accuses PZ Myers of a lack of integrity and engaging in censorship.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96FtpDLi_Vw FreeThoughtBlogs and PZ Myers]</ref>
[[Vox Day]] wrote that [[Thunderf00t]]'s removal from Freethoughtblogs exemplified PZ Myers's unwillingness to intellectually engage his opponents and his lack of integrity.<ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/07/free-fascistthoughtblogs.html Vox Day on Freethoughtblogs]</ref>
The issue which appeared to spark the contention was how to properly deal with the significant amount of [[misogny]] within the atheist community (see also: [[Atheism and women]] and [[Atheism and rape]] and [[Elevatorgate]] and [[Women's views of Richard Dawkins]] and [[Atheist leaders and immoral relationships]]).<ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/07/01/thunderf00t-check-your-email/ Thunderf00t, check your email - PZ Myers]</ref><ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuKH3trPpgY&list=UUmb8hO2ilV9vRa8cilis88A&index=1&feature=plcp Thunderf00t on how to handle misogny in the atheist community]</ref><ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/thunderf00t/2012/07/01/skepchickcon-and-the-harassment-lol-icy/ SkepchickCON and the Harassment LOL-icy]</ref><ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/thunderf00t/2012/06/29/is-it-freethoughtblogs-or-group-think-blogs/ Is it ‘Freethoughtblogs’ or ‘Group-think-blogs’?]</ref>
== Speech at the 2010 Global Atheist Convention ==
== Speech at the 2010 Global Atheist Convention ==