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::::Tebow was repeatedly criticized by the [[lamestream media]], to an absurd extent.  So he wasn't overrated.  But every year, Manning racks up meaningless statistical achievements, only to fail in the playoffs.  Yet overhype by the liberal media continues about him.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:16, 22 December 2013 (EST)
 
::::Tebow was repeatedly criticized by the [[lamestream media]], to an absurd extent.  So he wasn't overrated.  But every year, Manning racks up meaningless statistical achievements, only to fail in the playoffs.  Yet overhype by the liberal media continues about him.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:16, 22 December 2013 (EST)
 
:::::But his inability to win more than one Super Bowl is the conventional wisdom - it's not some inspired maverick opinion - that is the opinion. That's what the "liberal sports media" says about him. Were you around two weeks ago when literally every article was about how he couldn't throw in the cold? Just like Dan Marino is remembered as a great QB who couldn't win a Super Bowl (although Manning has won one). I would also say that we praised Tebow - someone who has a 9-7 career record and is 1-1 in the playoffs - to an absurd extent, but fair enough.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 18:29, 22 December 2013 (EST)
 
:::::But his inability to win more than one Super Bowl is the conventional wisdom - it's not some inspired maverick opinion - that is the opinion. That's what the "liberal sports media" says about him. Were you around two weeks ago when literally every article was about how he couldn't throw in the cold? Just like Dan Marino is remembered as a great QB who couldn't win a Super Bowl (although Manning has won one). I would also say that we praised Tebow - someone who has a 9-7 career record and is 1-1 in the playoffs - to an absurd extent, but fair enough.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 18:29, 22 December 2013 (EST)
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==Standards again==
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This is a politics page - not primarily a sports page. So the criteria should be that the athlete isn't as good as the media hype warrants. That is, the (liberal) media still exalts the sports star - probably for political purpose - even if he was never a top player.
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This is to highlight the fact that liberals promote the careers of liberals while ignoring the accomplishments of conservatives.
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If conservative editors here are going to cooperate with liberal editors, we need to agree on what "overrated" means. Is it someone past his prime who is still treated like a champ? Would it be fair to treat [[Babe Ruth]] like a champ - even if only a historical one?
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Are we providing evidence for our narrative that the liberal media overrate sports stars who toe the liberal "line"? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 09:36, 24 December 2013 (EST)
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