Block, SkipCaptcha, Automoderated users, edit
2,947
edits
Changes
Jump to navigation
Jump to search
Line 5:
Line 5: +
Talk:Disturbed character (view source)
Revision as of 14:52, December 27, 2013
, 14:52, December 27, 2013reply on more inexact art than science
I understand why Conservative archived the page, but last point I'd like you to address that you didn't get a chance to with the back and forth earlier: if psychology is more inexact art than science, how can you cite anyone as a definitive example of a psychological diagnosis? If it's as easy as lining up the person's reported traits with the symptoms/traits of the diagnosis, then aren't you suggesting you - someone with no formal training - can be exact?--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 11:02, 26 December 2013 (EST)
I understand why Conservative archived the page, but last point I'd like you to address that you didn't get a chance to with the back and forth earlier: if psychology is more inexact art than science, how can you cite anyone as a definitive example of a psychological diagnosis? If it's as easy as lining up the person's reported traits with the symptoms/traits of the diagnosis, then aren't you suggesting you - someone with no formal training - can be exact?--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 11:02, 26 December 2013 (EST)
:Unlike most psychologists, George K. Simon points out that some people are evil and that is why they have poor relationships with others. Jesus said, "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him!" The Old Testament prophet Jeremiah said, "The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it?". Simon may not outright use the words evil or sin in relation to people's dysfunction, nonetheless that is the underlying current of much of his writing from what I saw of his material on the internet. Also, there are countless people who are definitive examples of being evil/prideful/dishonest/sinful people. There are a lot more sinners in the world than there are saints. Jesus said that the gate to destruction is wide and narrow is the gate to life (Matthew 7:13-14). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 21:56, 26 December 2013 (EST)
:Unlike most psychologists, George K. Simon points out that some people are evil and that is why they have poor relationships with others. Jesus said, "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him!" The Old Testament prophet Jeremiah said, "The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it?". Simon may not outright use the words evil or sin in relation to people's dysfunction, nonetheless that is the underlying current of much of his writing from what I saw of his material on the internet. Also, there are countless people who are definitive examples of being evil/prideful/dishonest/sinful people. There are a lot more sinners in the world than there are saints. Jesus said that the gate to destruction is wide and narrow is the gate to life (Matthew 7:13-14). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 21:56, 26 December 2013 (EST)
:IDuan, that's not difficult Q at all, you just need to try to get free from bondage of [[Kerkut’s student syndrome]] and start thinking logically on your own. Even in [[science]] you can have many contradictory positions called [[hypothesis|hypotheses]] or [[theory|theories]] on the very same subject thus clearly [due to law of non-contradiction stating that something cannot be both true and not true at the same time when dealing with the same context] at least one of them must be "inexact". The possibility of hypothesis or theory to exhibit the property of being inexact is actually the very nature of so called [[falsifiability]] (an inherent possibility to prove it to be false). For example, you may have a group of Big Bangers and group of adherents of steady-state theory. That however does not pose any hindrance to define objects such as [[Quasar|QSOs]] and evaluate candidates against criteria and if met, associate the given object with that defined class. Both theories of which at least one must be inexact then may try to explain the origin of QSOs but it does not affect whatsoever the membership of any object in the QSO class. Anything needed is just to evaluate the object in question against the criteria for QSO membership. I hope this helps.--[[User:AK|AK]] 09:52, 27 December 2013 (EST)