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| | # '''Other library references don't include them either.''' See ''Britannica'',<ref>''[http://www.britannica.com/ Britannica]'' is edited by University of Chicago Press copy editors trained in Chicago style. It has even more entries on Vietnam than the Merriam-Webster dictionaries do. For its 1974 edition, ''Britannica'' increased its use of European diacritics to take advantage of improvements in printing technology. Merriam-Webster and other publishers adopted the new style a few years later, and it is now standard.</ref> Spencer Tucker's ''Encyclopedia of the Vietnam War'' (2011), ''Encyclopedia of Modern Asia'' (2002), ''National Geographic Atlas of the World'', and ''Lonely Planet Vietnam''.<ref>I found these works in the reference section of the main library in Taipei, as well as in the reference section of the University of Minnesota Library. In addition, U of M has ''Southeast Asia: A Historical Encyclopedia'' (2004), which does use Vietnamese diacritics. This work is by ABC-CLIO, the same publisher as EVW. Like the first edition of EVW, it has numerous diacritic mistakes.</ref> ''The Cambridge History of Southeast Asia'' (1993), the top specialist work on Vietnamese history, also drops the diacritics. | | # '''Other library references don't include them either.''' See ''Britannica'',<ref>''[http://www.britannica.com/ Britannica]'' is edited by University of Chicago Press copy editors trained in Chicago style. It has even more entries on Vietnam than the Merriam-Webster dictionaries do. For its 1974 edition, ''Britannica'' increased its use of European diacritics to take advantage of improvements in printing technology. Merriam-Webster and other publishers adopted the new style a few years later, and it is now standard.</ref> Spencer Tucker's ''Encyclopedia of the Vietnam War'' (2011), ''Encyclopedia of Modern Asia'' (2002), ''National Geographic Atlas of the World'', and ''Lonely Planet Vietnam''.<ref>I found these works in the reference section of the main library in Taipei, as well as in the reference section of the University of Minnesota Library. In addition, U of M has ''Southeast Asia: A Historical Encyclopedia'' (2004), which does use Vietnamese diacritics. This work is by ABC-CLIO, the same publisher as EVW. Like the first edition of EVW, it has numerous diacritic mistakes.</ref> ''The Cambridge History of Southeast Asia'' (1993), the top specialist work on Vietnamese history, also drops the diacritics. |
| | # '''It's not only for technical reasons.''' The standard rejoinder to the arguments given above is that U.S. publishers drop Vietnamese diacritics only for "technical reasons." The style guides and reference works are the authorities on spelling. So even if this was true, it shouldn't matter. But it isn't. Windows has been able to handle Vietnamese input since 1995.<ref>VNI Encoding, which allows the user to type in Vietnamese on a home computer, was incorporated into Windows 95.</ref> All the major browsers have been able to display Vietnamese since 2000.<ref>Earlier browsers require that an appropriate font be installed. Explorer 5.5 and Netscape 4.7, both released in 2000, can display Vietnamese without tinkering. </ref> Unlike a U.S. publisher, a publisher based in Vietnam does not have to worry that a non-Vietnamese copy editor will screw up the diacritics.<ref>See [http://books.google.com.vn/books?id=WLcG5Cdw-NIC&pg=PA503&dq=#v=onepage&q=%22Encyclopedia%20of%20the%20Vietnam%20War%22%20diacritics&f=false this complaint] regarding the copyediting of Tucker's work.</ref> Vietnam has a substantial English-language publishing industry nowadays, and the output is mainly diacritics-free. This includes [http://english.vietnamnet.vn VietNamNet Bridge], the country's top English-language site.<ref>Alexa's U.S. and Japan rankings suggest that VNNB is by far the most widely-read English-language site in Vietnam. (There is no Japanese version of the site, so I assume the Japanese are reading it in English.) Vietnam's various news sites are aggregated by [http://en.baomoi.com/ Bao Moi].</ref> Viet-lish is certainly easier for Vietnamese to read, but they will avoid a site that has a reputation for it. | | # '''It's not only for technical reasons.''' The standard rejoinder to the arguments given above is that U.S. publishers drop Vietnamese diacritics only for "technical reasons." The style guides and reference works are the authorities on spelling. So even if this was true, it shouldn't matter. But it isn't. Windows has been able to handle Vietnamese input since 1995.<ref>VNI Encoding, which allows the user to type in Vietnamese on a home computer, was incorporated into Windows 95.</ref> All the major browsers have been able to display Vietnamese since 2000.<ref>Earlier browsers require that an appropriate font be installed. Explorer 5.5 and Netscape 4.7, both released in 2000, can display Vietnamese without tinkering. </ref> Unlike a U.S. publisher, a publisher based in Vietnam does not have to worry that a non-Vietnamese copy editor will screw up the diacritics.<ref>See [http://books.google.com.vn/books?id=WLcG5Cdw-NIC&pg=PA503&dq=#v=onepage&q=%22Encyclopedia%20of%20the%20Vietnam%20War%22%20diacritics&f=false this complaint] regarding the copyediting of Tucker's work.</ref> Vietnam has a substantial English-language publishing industry nowadays, and the output is mainly diacritics-free. This includes [http://english.vietnamnet.vn VietNamNet Bridge], the country's top English-language site.<ref>Alexa's U.S. and Japan rankings suggest that VNNB is by far the most widely-read English-language site in Vietnam. (There is no Japanese version of the site, so I assume the Japanese are reading it in English.) Vietnam's various news sites are aggregated by [http://en.baomoi.com/ Bao Moi].</ref> Viet-lish is certainly easier for Vietnamese to read, but they will avoid a site that has a reputation for it. |
| − | # '''The use of an unusual style unnecessarily distracts the reader.''' "Although Vietnamese is written in the Latin alphabet, the number of accent marks can be distracting and may therefore be omitted," according to the style guide of ''National Geographic''.<ref>''[http://stylemanual.ngs.org/home/A/accent-marks National Geographic Style Manual]''. "Although Vietnamese is written in the Latin alphabet, the number of accent marks can be distracting and may therefore be omitted."</ref> This publication has a great deal of experience with a wide variety of diacritics. Style should be as unremarkable as possible so that readers can focus on content. | + | # '''The use of an unusual style distracts the reader.''' "Although Vietnamese is written in the Latin alphabet, the number of accent marks can be distracting and may therefore be omitted," according to the style guide of ''National Geographic''.<ref>''[http://stylemanual.ngs.org/home/A/accent-marks National Geographic Style Manual]''. "Although Vietnamese is written in the Latin alphabet, the number of accent marks can be distracting and may therefore be omitted."</ref> This publication has a great deal of experience with a wide variety of diacritics. Style should be as unremarkable as possible so that readers can focus on content. |
| | # Who still puts Vietnamese diacritics in English-language material? Not anyone who could be considered a style model. Besides Wikipedia,<ref>Vietnam-related titles were moved to diacritic forms ''en masse'' soon after I was banned.</ref> there's Thế Giới Publishers in Hanoi. Much of the material this company puts out is old-style war propaganda. Tourists can buy it and show the goofy language and lettering to their friends back home. In "patriotic-language" publications of this type, Vietnam is "Việt Nam," Hanoi is "Hà Nội," and mainstream English has been left far behind. | | # Who still puts Vietnamese diacritics in English-language material? Not anyone who could be considered a style model. Besides Wikipedia,<ref>Vietnam-related titles were moved to diacritic forms ''en masse'' soon after I was banned.</ref> there's Thế Giới Publishers in Hanoi. Much of the material this company puts out is old-style war propaganda. Tourists can buy it and show the goofy language and lettering to their friends back home. In "patriotic-language" publications of this type, Vietnam is "Việt Nam," Hanoi is "Hà Nội," and mainstream English has been left far behind. |
| | #'''There is no trend toward increased use of diacritics.''' Yes, some publishers did experiment with them after Unicode was introduced. But for the last five years or so, the trend has been the other direction. ''Encyclopedia of the Vietnam War'' was originally published in 1998 with diacritics. But these have been removed from the current (2011) edition of the work. [http://news.chinhphu.vn VGP News] once had diacritics, but switched to conventional English about two years ago. The print edition of ''Viet Nam News'' still uses diacritics. This was once a major news source, but it disappeared from newsstands years ago.<ref>They still hand out copies of VNN to passengers who request it on Vietnam Air. Otherwise, the print edition doesn't have any circulation worth mentioning</ref> Nowadays, almost all of VNN's readers access [http://vietnamnews.vn/ the website], which is diacritics-free. | | #'''There is no trend toward increased use of diacritics.''' Yes, some publishers did experiment with them after Unicode was introduced. But for the last five years or so, the trend has been the other direction. ''Encyclopedia of the Vietnam War'' was originally published in 1998 with diacritics. But these have been removed from the current (2011) edition of the work. [http://news.chinhphu.vn VGP News] once had diacritics, but switched to conventional English about two years ago. The print edition of ''Viet Nam News'' still uses diacritics. This was once a major news source, but it disappeared from newsstands years ago.<ref>They still hand out copies of VNN to passengers who request it on Vietnam Air. Otherwise, the print edition doesn't have any circulation worth mentioning</ref> Nowadays, almost all of VNN's readers access [http://vietnamnews.vn/ the website], which is diacritics-free. |