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Talk:Essay:Rebuttal to Counterexamples to Relativity (view source)
Revision as of 23:24, October 18, 2014
, 23:24, October 18, 2014→Aristotle and Motion: Some refs showing how Aristotle got connected with this.
:I do have a couple of web references that suggest a link between Aristotle and some kind of notion that heavier/denser objects fall faster. It may be a (wrong) conclusion that other people drew from what Aristotle said. In any case, I don't have time to work on that just now. Maybe this weekend.
:I do have a couple of web references that suggest a link between Aristotle and some kind of notion that heavier/denser objects fall faster. It may be a (wrong) conclusion that other people drew from what Aristotle said. In any case, I don't have time to work on that just now. Maybe this weekend.
:This has been the most interesting thing to happen at Conservapedia in a couple of years. Much better than the "atheism and applesauce" series. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 00:40, 15 October 2014 (EDT)
:This has been the most interesting thing to happen at Conservapedia in a couple of years. Much better than the "atheism and applesauce" series. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 00:40, 15 October 2014 (EDT)
::Perhaps it isn't right to blame Aristotle specifically for this—the point of the item was to show that what is "accepted wisdom" in one era is debunked in another. But one can see how Aristotle got connected with this notion in public discourse. In [http://books.google.com/books?id=Vhx--jfFN8IC&pg=PA29#v=onepage&q&f=false this] we have
:::"'Bodies having a greater degree of heaviness or lightness but in all other respects having the same shape, traverse an equal space more rapidly in the same proportion as the quantities mentioned.' Thus, according to Aristotle, the velocity of a falling body is proportional to its weight."
::And in [http://science.jrank.org/pages/3129/Gravity-Gravitation-history-gravity.html this] we have
:::"This was one of the earliest explanations of gravity: that it was the natural tendency for the heavier elements, earth and water, to return to their proper positions near the center of the Universe. Aristotle's theory was for centuries taken as implying [Note: just implying--SHB] that objects with different weights should fall at different speeds; that is, a heavier object should fall faster because it contains more of the centertrending elements, earth and water."