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::What about car violence? [[User:Jaques|Jaques]] 00:00, 17 April 2007 (EDT)
 
::What about car violence? [[User:Jaques|Jaques]] 00:00, 17 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:::when is the last time a gun committed a crime by itself?[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]] 00:01, 17 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:::when is the last time a gun committed a crime by itself?[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]] 00:01, 17 April 2007 (EDT)
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:::The natural conclusion of the "this may have been caused by porn: argument goes like this:
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:::#Many sociopaths like hardcore pornography.
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:::#So, many sociopaths also like pizza.
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:::#That's ridiculous, lots of people like pizza and they don't commit mass murder.
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:::#Well, lots of people like hardcore pornography and ''they'' don't commit mass murder either.
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:::Drugs is another story, but the same reasoning applies.  Do drugs turn someone into a sociopath? We have no evidence that they do, but they can surely cloud the judgement of someone enough that they might do such a thing.  On the face of it, this does not seem like a killing spree set off by a drug addled brain.  This took time and preparation.  And guns and ammo. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 00:06, 17 April 2007 (EDT)
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