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:::::I actually meant to question the possibility of a neutral description ''in this particular case'', as it impinges on people's worldviews, unlike Shannon information, etc. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 07:38, 17 April 2007 (EDT)
:::::I actually meant to question the possibility of a neutral description ''in this particular case'', as it impinges on people's worldviews, unlike Shannon information, etc. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 07:38, 17 April 2007 (EDT)
::::::Oh. No, whether or not intelligence can derive from anything but intelligence is probably going to remain an issue of contention. But having a neutral description of the basics down might help resolve it. As it stands, it's not even clear what the claim is supposed to mean. [[User:Tsumetai|Tsumetai]] 07:42, 17 April 2007 (EDT)