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:*'''Mark 2:21''' ''The topic of whether it was grape juice or wine is a thorny unresolved issue.'' I don't think so - it is an obvious example of shoehorning a modern concept - or wishful thinking (abstinence is good - therefore Jesus was abstinent) - into the Bible. You really have to bend scripture to make this point.
 
:*'''Mark 2:21''' ''The topic of whether it was grape juice or wine is a thorny unresolved issue.'' I don't think so - it is an obvious example of shoehorning a modern concept - or wishful thinking (abstinence is good - therefore Jesus was abstinent) - into the Bible. You really have to bend scripture to make this point.
 
:--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:57, 2 February 2013 (EST)
 
:--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:57, 2 February 2013 (EST)
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== Plain error in translation of Mark 4:29 ==
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The verse includes the command Σιώπα, πεφίμωσο - "Silence, be still" (or if you prefer: "be kept in check!") - that's the imperative, a direct quote of what Jesus said. After uttering these words, the wind calmed down. Do you think that Mark invented these words? --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 19:17, 20 June 2015 (EDT)
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