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| | I think its unfortunate that despite the generally good quality of the rest of the article, the concluding section reads like it was written by a grade school student. The entire world (with the exclusion of the middle east) consumes alcohol in some form or another, simply drinking beer in a pub is not a sign of poor health. In addition, up to 50% of the U.S. can be considered overweight or obese, since the apparent prevalence of atheism (not self-described, but defined as without belief in a god or life spirit) in the U.S. is on the order of 10%, there are far more obese and overweight theists than atheists. This section as it stands right now reads like an indictment of PZMyers and should be moved to the PZMyers page. In any case, attacking the validity of the theory based on the health of the proponent is a clear ad hominem and should at the very least be revised, since it has no place in an otherwise serious and even-handed article on the theory of evolution. [[User:DenisTR|DenisTR]] 22:25, 13 April 2011 (EDT) | | I think its unfortunate that despite the generally good quality of the rest of the article, the concluding section reads like it was written by a grade school student. The entire world (with the exclusion of the middle east) consumes alcohol in some form or another, simply drinking beer in a pub is not a sign of poor health. In addition, up to 50% of the U.S. can be considered overweight or obese, since the apparent prevalence of atheism (not self-described, but defined as without belief in a god or life spirit) in the U.S. is on the order of 10%, there are far more obese and overweight theists than atheists. This section as it stands right now reads like an indictment of PZMyers and should be moved to the PZMyers page. In any case, attacking the validity of the theory based on the health of the proponent is a clear ad hominem and should at the very least be revised, since it has no place in an otherwise serious and even-handed article on the theory of evolution. [[User:DenisTR|DenisTR]] 22:25, 13 April 2011 (EDT) |
| | + | :DenisTR, please see: [[Atheism and alcoholism]] and [[Secular Europe and alcoholism]] and [[Atheism and obesity]] and [[Secular Europe and obesity]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 21:50, 1 July 2015 (EDT) |
| | :::DenisTR, thank you for indicating that the vast bulk of the article was fair-minded. Secondly, nowhere does the article indicate that because PZ Myers has not done his best to act in accordance with the best information that medical science has made widely available, therefore evolution is false. Lastly, I am guessing you are not a big fan of the introductory picture for [[atheism|Conservapedia's atheism article]]. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 23:42, 17 April 2011 (EDT) | | :::DenisTR, thank you for indicating that the vast bulk of the article was fair-minded. Secondly, nowhere does the article indicate that because PZ Myers has not done his best to act in accordance with the best information that medical science has made widely available, therefore evolution is false. Lastly, I am guessing you are not a big fan of the introductory picture for [[atheism|Conservapedia's atheism article]]. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 23:42, 17 April 2011 (EDT) |
| | [[File:Baron2.jpg|thumb|alt=atheism|right|225px|[[Paul-Henri Thiry]], Baron d'Holbach (1723 - 1789) was an early advocate of [[atheism]] in [[Europe]].]] | | [[File:Baron2.jpg|thumb|alt=atheism|right|225px|[[Paul-Henri Thiry]], Baron d'Holbach (1723 - 1789) was an early advocate of [[atheism]] in [[Europe]].]] |
| | ::::DenisTR, thanks for your input. I just added the following material to the Conservapedia evolution article: "In August 2009, PZ Myers led a group of over 300 atheist and agnostic students on a tour of the [[Creation Museum]].[http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=8280168] During the visit, Myers had noticeably greater difficulty than others climbing on and off a dinosaur model due to the fact that he was overweight and out of shape.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQQl2TMrgbM VIDEO]" [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 10:24, 18 April 2011 (EDT) | | ::::DenisTR, thanks for your input. I just added the following material to the Conservapedia evolution article: "In August 2009, PZ Myers led a group of over 300 atheist and agnostic students on a tour of the [[Creation Museum]].[http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=8280168] During the visit, Myers had noticeably greater difficulty than others climbing on and off a dinosaur model due to the fact that he was overweight and out of shape.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQQl2TMrgbM VIDEO]" [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 10:24, 18 April 2011 (EDT) |
| | :::::::DenisTR, by the way, the above material concerning PZ Myers and the Creation Museum has now also been added to the [[Atheism]], [[Atheism and obesity]] and the [[Atheism and Mental and Physical Health]] article. Once again, thank you for your input. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 14:17, 18 April 2011 (EDT) | | :::::::DenisTR, by the way, the above material concerning PZ Myers and the Creation Museum has now also been added to the [[Atheism]], [[Atheism and obesity]] and the [[Atheism and Mental and Physical Health]] article. Once again, thank you for your input. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 14:17, 18 April 2011 (EDT) |