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If the European Christians were not willing to fight the expansionist Mohammedans, then the Mohammedans would have invaded Europe. Thanks to the Crusades, Europe
 
If the European Christians were not willing to fight the expansionist Mohammedans, then the Mohammedans would have invaded Europe. Thanks to the Crusades, Europe
 
was not destroyed. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 15:27, 23 February 2007 (EST)
 
was not destroyed. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 15:27, 23 February 2007 (EST)
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:I guess I will weigh in here, Europe was not destroyed because of Charles Martel victory in southern France The Battle of Tours 732 AD (before the 1st crusade) and the defeat (almost destruction) of the Ottoman Empire's army at the gates of Vienna 1529 (300 years after the last Crusade) and the successful defense at Malta 1292 AD (the year after the last Crusade). None of these events were concerned with the Crusades.  The sacking of Constanstiople advanced the movement of Islam by weakening a power bulwarking Europe.  Europe did advance in technology by exposure to the middle east as it was the more advanced of the two areas in some ways.  I am saying that this looks to be more of socio/ethic/religious broad movements to me rather than the Crusades per say.
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Out of curiosity, why do you call Muslims "Mohammedans"?  We don't call Americans "Washingtonans" or Jewish people "Abrahamans".  I'm not saying the term "Mohammedan" is necessarily incorrect.  It used to be the popular term for Muslims in the West.  But why do you think it is appropriate?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 01:38, 24 February 2007 (EST)
 
Out of curiosity, why do you call Muslims "Mohammedans"?  We don't call Americans "Washingtonans" or Jewish people "Abrahamans".  I'm not saying the term "Mohammedan" is necessarily incorrect.  It used to be the popular term for Muslims in the West.  But why do you think it is appropriate?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 01:38, 24 February 2007 (EST)
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