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| | Does sometimes doubting whether your version of god exists (while calling yourself a christian) make you "DEFINITELY not a christian" (not a 'true' christian)? | | Does sometimes doubting whether your version of god exists (while calling yourself a christian) make you "DEFINITELY not a christian" (not a 'true' christian)? |
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| − | Almost all christians admit that they occasionally doubt whether or not their god exists. "Sometimes contemplating" the possibility of the other side being correct does not negate your own perspective, or make you untrue to what you believe (whether for, or against). That would be a ridiculous notion, as it would effectively means that all humans are actually agnostics. An intelligent person can see things from the other perspective - it would seem that Pat Tillman was an intelligent atheist. He had his own beliefs, he identified his own beliefs and threw a label on it, and this article is a dishonor to Tillman's memory. [[User:Ebionite|Ebionite]] ([[User talk:Ebionite|talk]]) 14:45, 26 October 2015 (EDT) | + | Almost all christians admit that they occasionally doubt whether or not their god exists. "Sometimes contemplating" the possibility of the other side being correct does not negate your own perspective, or make you untrue to what you believe (whether for, or against). That would be a ridiculous notion, as it would effectively means that all humans are actually agnostics. An intelligent person can see things from the other perspective - it would seem that Pat Tillman was an intelligent atheist. He had his own beliefs, he identified his own beliefs and threw a label on it, and this article is a dishonor to Tillman's memory. |
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| | + | '''Tillman's brother, who would know him better than anyone at Conservapedia would:''' |
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| | + | In response to his eulogy, Pat's brother stated, "Just make no mistake, he'd want me to say this: He's not with God, he's f*cking dead—he's not religious. Thanks for your thoughts, but he's f*cking dead." |
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| | + | Like myself, Pat had read and studied multiple religious books. He had good reason for being an atheist - he had read and studied the Bible, Quran and Book of Mormon, at least. It sounds like he was very much like me, so if I'm right, he had probably read several others, as well - just as in my case, the family probably didn't know the extent to the religious studies he had actually done. An intelligent ATHEIST like Pat Tillman was probably very interested in learning and understanding. |
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| | + | I don't know if anyone here is a veteran, but something you guys should know about military culture is that you DON'T disrespect the fallen (like you've done here). Sure, I'm an atheist, and no, I can't explain fully why I hold this view (perhaps it's just irrational human emotions-something all humans share), but quite frankly, you people are disgusting. [[User:Ebionite|Ebionite]] ([[User talk:Ebionite|talk]]) 14:45, 26 October 2015 (EDT) |