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:Exactly, that's the point. Most leading scientists believe in God. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 11:51, 28 October 2015 (EDT)
 
:Exactly, that's the point. Most leading scientists believe in God. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 11:51, 28 October 2015 (EDT)
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Phlogiston theory reigned in science for 100 years.  Scientific fraud is rampant today and integrity among scientists is at a low ebb.  The consensus among scientists about a particular matter is vastly inferior to empirical science/scientific method (observational science which has been replicated.
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Scientific community and fraud:
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*[http://pnis.co/cracked.html 7 Crazy Realities of Scientific Publishing]
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*[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-intrinsic-unreliability-of-science.html The present scientific community and character issues]
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*[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-business-of-progressive-science.html The business of progressive science]
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*[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/03/if-you-hand-us-hammer.html Scientific fraud problem in science community]
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*[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2013/10/peer-review-is-joke.html Peer review problems in science]
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*[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2013/10/science-has-lost-its-way.html Scientific replication problems and current published science articles]
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Social science literature has major problems:
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*[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/08/the-adjective-modifies-noun.html 60 percent of "important" social science studies could not be replicated]
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Lastly, watch this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh1cXwhY1sE Defeating atheism through science].  14:06, 28 October 2015 (EDT)
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