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: What's more of that were true then why have ancient civilisations recorded lots of the stars that were now see? shouldn't there be masses of new ones that the light of which has reached us in the proceeding years? [[User:Ampasand|Ampasand]] 11:23 29 march 2007 (GMT+12)
 
: What's more of that were true then why have ancient civilisations recorded lots of the stars that were now see? shouldn't there be masses of new ones that the light of which has reached us in the proceeding years? [[User:Ampasand|Ampasand]] 11:23 29 march 2007 (GMT+12)
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:The speed of light, Einstein called it "c" is a universal constant.  In order for us to see something, light must travel from that object to our eyes.  This is how our eyes work.  But, the Universe is far older than earth.  For all we know, the earth could be infinitely old.  Light which left stars that were 7000-8000 light years away is reaching our eyes now, even if the stars are no longer there.  Further more, the creation and destruction of stars in a universe as vast as ours can sometimes go un-noticed if not specifically documented.  Today, we find new stars occasionally because we have extensive equipment with which to survey the skies.  Ancient civiliations didn't. ~Patriot101.
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Perhaps, the Universe really is billions of years old.  Perhaps the Genisis account is merely refering to the creation etc. from the perspective of the Earth.  Perhaps God is, say, eternal.  Couldn't matter and the elements be eternal too? {{Unsigned|Brigham's Homeboy}}
 
Perhaps, the Universe really is billions of years old.  Perhaps the Genisis account is merely refering to the creation etc. from the perspective of the Earth.  Perhaps God is, say, eternal.  Couldn't matter and the elements be eternal too? {{Unsigned|Brigham's Homeboy}}
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