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Line 173: − − == PZ Myers' blog audience == − [[File:PZ Myers at Skepticon 7.jpg|thumbnail|250px|right|PZ Myers]] − ''See also:'' and [[Atheism and the internet]] − − In 2010, the [[Christian apologetics]] website [[True Free Thinker]] wrote: − {{cquote|Scienceblogger Chad Orzel described the commentators on PZ Myers ' Scienceblogs.com site [[Pharyngula (blog)|Pharyngula]], and other Scienceblogs.com commentators, as "screechy monkeys."<ref>http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/pz-myers-and-pavlovs-monkeys</ref>}} − − A somewhat similar report was made concerning the audience of [[Richard Dawkins]]'s web community. In February of 2010, the news organization ''The Telegraph'' reported that the [[atheism|atheist]] and [[evolution|evolutionist]] [[Richard Dawkins]] was embroiled "in a bitter online battle over plans to rid his popular internet forum for atheists of foul language, insults and 'frivolous gossip'."<ref>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/7322177/Richard-Dawkins-in-bitter-web-censorship-row-with-fellow-atheists.html</ref> In addition, Richard Dawkins [[Abrasiveness of Richard Dawkins|has a reputation for being abrasive]]. − − === PZ Myers' blog audience and their reported Asperger's quotient test results === − − ''See also:'' [[Atheism and autism]] and [[Atheism and brain function]] − − [[Asperger's syndrome]] (sometimes referred to as "High-Functioning Autism" or "HFA") is an umbrella term used to classify problematic behaviours similar to, but less severe than, those within the lower reaches of the [[Autism|autistic spectrum]]. − − [[Vox Day]] has written about atheists being "socially autistic".<ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2007/08/socially-autistic-atheist.html The socially autistic atheist] by [[Vox Day]], August 02, 2007</ref><ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/08/a-lesson-in-atheist-social-autism.html A lesson in atheist social autism] by [[Vox Day]], August 13, 2014</ref><ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/08/atheists-and-daddy-issues.html Atheists and Daddy issues] by Vox Day, August 23, 2012</ref> − − Vox Day wrote concerning PZ Myers' blog Pharyngula: − {{cquote|It's by no means a scientific test, but it is interesting to note the coincidence that 59 of the virulent atheists over at Dr. PZ Myers place [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/08/01/im-mostly-normal/#comments report an average score] on the [http://www.piepalace.ca/blog/asperger-test-aq-test Asperger's Quotient test] of 27.8. And this does not include the two individuals who actually have Asperger's but did not report any test results." − − As PZ himself said: "I took the test and scored a 24, an “average math contest winner.” You need a 32 to suggest Asperger’s, and a 15 is the average. So there. I don’t have Asperger’s, I’m just cruel and insensitive."<ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/08/pz-admits-hes-wrong.html PZ admits he's wrong] by Theodore Beale, Friday, August 29, 2014</ref>}} − − Below is some information that Aspergerstest.com gives concerning interpreting their Asperger's quiz results: − {{cquote|Basically the range for possible answers is 0 to 50. The information below shows you the different ranges as recorded from others sitting this same AQ quiz over the years. − − 0-11 low result – indicating no tendency at all towards autistic traits. − − 11-21 is the average result that people get (many women average around 15 and men around 17) − − 22-25 shows autistic tendencies slightly above the population average − − 26-31 gives a borderline indication of an autism spectrum disorder. It is also possible to have aspergers or mild autism within this range. − − 32-50 indicates a strong likelihood of Asperger syndrome or autism. − − In fact, scores of 32 or above are one of strong indicators of having as ASD.<ref>[http://aspergerstest.net/interpreting-aq-test-results/ Interpreting Asperger's Test Results]</ref>}} − − However, there is evidence which suggests that a large portion of PZ Myers' blog audience are narcissists rather than individuals who have Asperger's Syndrome (see: [[Atheism and autism#PZ Myers' antitheist blog audience and the issue of narcissism vs. Asperger's Syndrome|PZ Myers' antitheist blog audience and the issue of narcissism vs. Asperger's Syndrome]]).
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On August 28, 2011, Vox Day declared concerning Myers:
On August 28, 2011, Vox Day declared concerning Myers:
{{cquote|What you clearly do not understand is that, by his own admission, PZ relies heavily upon emotional arguments rather than logical ones when he cannot simply appeal to an established scientific consensus. "I'll also cop to the obvious fact that, knowing that reason will not get through their skills, I'm happy to use emotional arguments as well. Passion is persuasive." His tendency to rely upon emotional rhetoric and passion rather than reason is precisely why he is afraid to debate people who rely primarily upon logic, because his ability to present reason-based arguments is relatively low. His ability to utilize reason is simply not equal to the skill of others who make use of it more effectively. PZ is without question an effective preacher to the godless choir of science fetishists, but he is remarkably unskilled at presenting convincing arguments, let alone conclusive ones, to those who do not already agree with him. Unlike you, he knows he is not an effective evangelist.<ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011/08/can-one-dodge-dodger.html Can one dodge a dodger?]</ref>}}
{{cquote|What you clearly do not understand is that, by his own admission, PZ relies heavily upon emotional arguments rather than logical ones when he cannot simply appeal to an established scientific consensus. "I'll also cop to the obvious fact that, knowing that reason will not get through their skills, I'm happy to use emotional arguments as well. Passion is persuasive." His tendency to rely upon emotional rhetoric and passion rather than reason is precisely why he is afraid to debate people who rely primarily upon logic, because his ability to present reason-based arguments is relatively low. His ability to utilize reason is simply not equal to the skill of others who make use of it more effectively. PZ is without question an effective preacher to the godless choir of science fetishists, but he is remarkably unskilled at presenting convincing arguments, let alone conclusive ones, to those who do not already agree with him. Unlike you, he knows he is not an effective evangelist.<ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011/08/can-one-dodge-dodger.html Can one dodge a dodger?]</ref>}}
== PZ Myers' commentary concerning atheist meetings ==
== PZ Myers' commentary concerning atheist meetings ==