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== Lack of sound atheist leadership ==
== Lack of sound atheist leadership ==
''See also:'' [[Atheism and leadership]]
=== Prominent atheists admitting that fellow prominent atheists are arrogant ===
[[File:PzMyers2.jpg|thumbnail|175px|right|[[PZ Myers]] declared, "...I don’t object to [[bestiality]] in a very limited set of specific conditions..."<ref name="achilles">[http://templestream.blogspot.com/2012/08/atheist-achilles-heels-objective.html Atheist Achilles Heels: Objective Morality and Sacred Life]</ref><ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/05/22/the-objective-morality-gotcha/ The “objective morality” gotcha]</ref> See: [[Atheism and bestiality]]
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and arrogance]] and [[Atheist movement]]
John W. Loftus, one of the more prominent atheists in the atheist community, cites John Draper (a Canadian atheist blogger), saying about prominent atheist [[PZ Myers]]: "According to PZ you either agree with him or you are the scum of the earth. If anyone is giving atheists a bad reputation it's PZ - he shows no tolerance or respect for anyone other than himself."<ref>[http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/2012/07/can-pz-myers-change-his-ways-should-he.html Can PZ Myers Change His Ways? Should He?] By John W. Loftus at 7/30/2012</ref>
PZ Myers wrote: "But see, this is why the atheist movement can’t have leaders. The ones we’ve got, informally, all seem to think they’re like gods and popes, infallible and unquestionable, and that normal, healthy, productive criticism within the movement is all a conspiracy to dethrone them."<ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/01/16/the-delicate-ego-of-mr-michael-shermer/ The delicate ego of Mr Michael Shermer] by [[PZ Myers]], 16 January 2013</ref>
=== Atheist leaders and misogyny ===
''See also:'' [[Atheism and sexism]] and [[Atheism and love]] and [[Atheism and rape]]
[[James Randi]] is a leader within the atheist community. Brian Thompson, former James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF) Outreach Coordinator, wrote:
{{cquote|But I no longer identify with this community of benevolent know-it-alls, because not all of them are the best folks in the world. In fact, a good percentage of the top ten worst humans I’ve ever met are prominent members of the skeptics’ club. They’re dishonest, mean-spirited, narcissistic, [[misogyny|misogynistic]]. Pick a personality flaw, and I can probably point you to someone who epitomizes it. And that person has probably had a speaking slot at a major skeptical conference.
I grew particularly disgusted with the boys’ club attitude I saw among skeptical leaders and luminaries. The kind of attitude that’s dismissive of women, sexually predatory, and downright gross. When I first started going to skeptical conferences as a fresh-faced know-it-all, I started hearing things about people I once admired. Then I started seeing things myself. Then I got a job with the JREF, and the pattern continued.<ref>Myers, P. Z. (March 31, 2014). [http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2014/03/31/when-will-this-situation-improve/ "When will this situation improve?"]. Freethoughtblogs.com/Pharyngula.</ref>}}
== Cultish characteristics of the New Atheism movement ==
Please see:
*[[Richard Dawkins' cult of personality]]
*[[Atheist cults]]
=== Other problems related to poor leadership within atheist population ===
[[File:2402173645 c8e6168fe7.jpg|alt=Richard Dawkins|thumbnail|230px|right|[[Richard Dawkins]]
[[File:2402173645 c8e6168fe7.jpg|alt=Richard Dawkins|thumbnail|230px|right|[[Richard Dawkins]]
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<small>(photo by Shane Pope, Title: Richard Dawkins, obtained from [http://flickr.com/photos/shanepope/2402173645/ Flickr, see license agreement)]</small>]]
The leadership status of prominent [[atheism|atheists]]/[[Agnosticism|agnostics]] in the secular community at this present juncture is increasingly transient due to atheist infighting, the significant amount of unpleasant personalities within the [[Atheist Population|atheist population]], the [[New Atheism]] failing, the decline of [[liberal media]] market share, a loss of confidence within the atheist community, the decline of [[global atheism]] and the secularization rate being zero in former areas of influence such as Protestant Europe and [[France]]. (see: [[Decline of atheism]]).<ref>[http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100230985/how-atheists-became-the-most-colossally-smug-and-annoying-people-on-the-planet/ Brendan O'Neill, ''The Telegraph, How atheists became the most colossally smug and annoying people on the planet'', August 14th, 2013]</ref>
The leadership status of prominent [[atheism|atheists]]/[[Agnosticism|agnostics]] in the secular community at this present juncture is increasingly transient due to atheist infighting, the significant amount of unpleasant personalities within the [[Atheist Population|atheist population]], the [[New Atheism]] failing, the decline of [[liberal media]] market share, a loss of confidence within the atheist community, the decline of [[global atheism]] and the secularization rate being zero in former areas of influence such as Protestant Europe and [[France]]. (see: [[Decline of atheism]]).<ref>[http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100230985/how-atheists-became-the-most-colossally-smug-and-annoying-people-on-the-planet/ Brendan O'Neill, ''The Telegraph, How atheists became the most colossally smug and annoying people on the planet'', August 14th, 2013]</ref>