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Did I read it? Yes. Do I believe they exist? No. Do I believe that this could happen in the future? Yes. Your argument headed in the right direction, but didn't make it all the way. The point is, private insurance companies DO choose what to pay for and what not to, but if they refuse, you can try to pay it on your own. It is not hard to believe that the U.S. system will eventually be changed to a single-payer version of this government "insurance". That means that the government will start make these choices, and if they refuse to pay, '''you have no other option'''. They have cut you off, and there is no other way to get treatment. Who makes these decisions? In theory, it is a "Death panel."
Did I read it? Yes. Do I believe they exist? No. Do I believe that this could happen in the future? Yes. Your argument headed in the right direction, but didn't make it all the way. The point is, private insurance companies DO choose what to pay for and what not to, but if they refuse, you can try to pay it on your own. It is not hard to believe that the U.S. system will eventually be changed to a single-payer version of this government "insurance". That means that the government will start make these choices, and if they refuse to pay, '''you have no other option'''. They have cut you off, and there is no other way to get treatment. Who makes these decisions? In theory, it is a "Death panel."
[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 14:45, 23 December 2015 (EST)
[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 14:45, 23 December 2015 (EST)
:OK. What I objected to was your seeming acceptance of their existence, while referencing an article that debunks this. Could "death panels", in the most extreme and conspiratorial sense come into being at some point? Yes. Society has to try to keep this from happening.
::>> Who makes these decisions? In theory, it is a "Death panel."
:Well, yes, in theory. In both theory and practice, life-and-death decisions happen all the time. This can be called "health care rationing" for a variety of reasons, like availability of money, or "health care triage" for a variety of reasons. It can happen for reasons completely separate from any malicious intent, such as getting the wrong number in a clinical trial of a drug that turns out to be successful. Staying alive is, in many cases, a tricky business.
::>>That means that the government will start make these choices, and if they refuse to pay, '''you have no other option'''.
:Yes. Society needs to keep the government from limiting people's choices or making our health care system dysfunctional. It's incredibly complex and incredibly inefficient at present.
:I'm not an expert on this topic by any means. I simply looked at your article and concluded that you are one of those people that say one thing while citing a source that says the opposite. That conclusion was wrong, and I apologize. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 21:49, 23 December 2015 (EST)
Making the health care system work is a very complex business. And yes, people die because of aspects of how it is done.