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→Belief vs. fact: my take
:One ''does'' believe in facts. I believe (because I can see it with my own eyes) that my computer is beige. I also believe (because of the overwhelming evidence) that God exists. Both are facts. Whether or not the Yankees are the best baseball team ever (without defining something measurable, like winning the most games) is an opinion. But you can believe in both opinions and facts. See my comments on this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Philip_J._Rayment#.22Belief.22 here] [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:38, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
:One ''does'' believe in facts. I believe (because I can see it with my own eyes) that my computer is beige. I also believe (because of the overwhelming evidence) that God exists. Both are facts. Whether or not the Yankees are the best baseball team ever (without defining something measurable, like winning the most games) is an opinion. But you can believe in both opinions and facts. See my comments on this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Philip_J._Rayment#.22Belief.22 here] [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:38, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
::Personally I prefer the use of "think" over "believe" for things one considers to be facts (or logical - I ''think'' that the pythagorean theorem is correct). In either case, of course, one can be wrong. As far as you (Philip J.) using "believe" where some might prefer "think", I think that as long as you're not altering their words, you are well within the bounds of reasonable usage. Although, once they say "think", you should honor their usage when referring to them. Oh, and what I'm talking about isn't quite the same as the heading. I'm not talking rhetorical uses, where people bandy about "belief", "fact", and "think" to pejorize others viewpoints. To look at what I'm saying another way, if you say "I know that the Creation described in Genesis is a fact", one should then refer to your position using those words. [[User:Human|Human]] 13:59, 20 April 2007 (EDT)
Is someone gonna remove the "the Earth is actually flat part"?
Is someone gonna remove the "the Earth is actually flat part"?