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==History==

==History==

Progressives try to sell ideas of egalitarianism as new, however historically the concept of wealth redistribution is very old, having its roots in the [[Palace economies]] of early city-states.  [[Benjamin Franklin]] at the [[Constitutional Convention]] mentioned how the Pharoahs engaged in it.<ref name=convention /></ref>

Progressives try to sell ideas of egalitarianism as new, however historically the concept of wealth redistribution is very old, having its roots in the [[Palace economies]] of early city-states.  [[Benjamin Franklin]] at the [[Constitutional Convention]] mentioned how the Pharoahs engaged in it.<ref name=convention />

Benjamin Franklin was not the only one who noticed.  Another Founding Father, [[James Madison]] made multiple observations regarding the theft of income or assets, "levelling", from one person to another.  On June 26th, 1787, he said:

Benjamin Franklin was not the only one who noticed.  Another Founding Father, [[James Madison]] made multiple observations regarding the theft of income or assets, "levelling", from one person to another.  On June 26th, 1787, he said:

Wealth redistribution has the net-effect of consolidating power for rulers by, in effect, rewarding certain groups for their support while punishing others.  In a discussion regarding public debtors, [[Oliver Ellsworth]] made the following observation:

Wealth redistribution has the net-effect of consolidating power for rulers by, in effect, rewarding certain groups for their support while punishing others.  In a discussion regarding public debtors, [[Oliver Ellsworth]] made the following observation:

<blockquote>Mr Elseworth was for disagreeing to the remainder of the clause disqualifying Public debtors; and for leaving to the wisdom of the Legislature and the virtue of the Citizens, the task of providing against such evils. Is the smallest as well as the largest debtor to be excluded? Then every arrear of taxes will disqualify. Besides how is it to be known to the people when they elect who are or are not public debtors. The exclusion of pensioners and placemen in England is founded on a consideration not existing here. As '''persons of that sort are dependent on the Crown, they tend to increase its influence'''.<ref>{{cite web |last1=Madison|first1=James |url=http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/debates_726.asp |title=Madison Debates, July 26 |work=[[Constitutional Convention]] |date=July 26, 1787 }}</ref><ref>{{cite book|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=YsapejLQstkC&pg=PA147|last1=Zeckhauser|first1=Richard|title=Strategy and Choice|date=1991|publisher=MIT Press|isbn=978-0262240338|pages147-151}}</ref></blockquote>

<blockquote>Mr Elseworth was for disagreeing to the remainder of the clause disqualifying Public debtors; and for leaving to the wisdom of the Legislature and the virtue of the Citizens, the task of providing against such evils. Is the smallest as well as the largest debtor to be excluded? Then every arrear of taxes will disqualify. Besides how is it to be known to the people when they elect who are or are not public debtors. The exclusion of pensioners and placemen in England is founded on a consideration not existing here. As '''persons of that sort are dependent on the Crown, they tend to increase its influence'''.<ref>{{cite web |last1=Madison|first1=James |url=http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/debates_726.asp |title=Madison Debates, July 26 |work=[[Constitutional Convention]] |date=July 26, 1787 }}</ref><ref>{{cite book|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=YsapejLQstkC&pg=PA147|last1=Zeckhauser|first1=Richard|title=Strategy and Choice|date=1991|publisher=MIT Press|isbn=978-0262240338|pages147-151}}</ref></blockquote>

==Liberal Attempts to Redefine the Term==

==Liberal Attempts to Redefine the Term==

*"Attempts to redistribute wealth repeatedly led to the redistribution of poverty." -- [[Thomas Sowell]] [http://www.amazon.com/Heaven-Earth-Rise-Fall-Socialism/dp/1893554783/ref=cm_lmf_tit_9_rdssss0]

*"Attempts to redistribute wealth repeatedly led to the redistribution of poverty." -- [[Thomas Sowell]] [http://www.amazon.com/Heaven-Earth-Rise-Fall-Socialism/dp/1893554783/ref=cm_lmf_tit_9_rdssss0]

*"Hence as all history informs us, there has been in every State & Kingdom a constant kind of warfare between the governing & governed: the one striving to obtain more for its support, and the other to pay less. And this has alone occasioned great convulsions, actual civil wars, ending either in dethroning of the Princes, or enslaving of the people. Generally indeed the ruling power carries its point, the revenues of princes constantly increasing, and we see that they are never satisfied, but always in want of more. The more the people are discontented with the oppression of taxes; the greater need the prince has of money to distribute among his partizans and pay the troops that are to suppress all resistance, and enable him to plunder at pleasure. There is scarce a king in a hundred who would not, if he could, follow the example of Pharoah, get first all the peoples money, then all their lands, and then make them and their children servants for ever." -- [[Benjamin Franklin]]<ref name=convention>{{cite web |last1=Madison|first1=James |url=http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/debates_602.asp |title=Madison Debates, June 2 |work=[[Constitutional Convention]] |date=June 2, 1787 }}</ref>

*"Hence as all history informs us, there has been in every State & Kingdom a constant kind of warfare between the governing & governed: the one striving to obtain more for its support, and the other to pay less. And this has alone occasioned great convulsions, actual civil wars, ending either in dethroning of the Princes, or enslaving of the people. Generally indeed the ruling power carries its point, the revenues of princes constantly increasing, and we see that they are never satisfied, but always in want of more. The more the people are discontented with the oppression of taxes; the greater need the prince has of money to distribute among his partizans and pay the troops that are to suppress all resistance, and enable him to plunder at pleasure. There is scarce a king in a hundred who would not, if he could, follow the example of Pharoah, get first all the peoples money, then all their lands, and then make them and their children servants for ever." -- [[Benjamin Franklin]]<ref name=convention>{{cite web |last1=Madison|first1=James |url=http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/debates_602.asp |title=Madison Debates, June 2 |work=[[Constitutional Convention]] |date=June 2, 1787 }}</ref>

*"[Obama's] policies, like those of FDR, seek to destroy America from within as a pretext to comprehensively remake the republic into a servile, Marxist welfare state." -- [[Ellis Washington]], in reference to [[Obama|Obama's]] policies on income distribution<ref name=wnd>[http://www.wnd.com/2010/04/144865/ Kill the welfare state!], [[WND]]</ref>

*"[Obama's] policies, like those of FDR, seek to destroy America from within as a pretext to comprehensively remake the republic into a servile, Marxist welfare state." -- [[Ellis Washington]], in reference to [[Obama|Obama's]] policies on income distribution<ref name=wnd>[http://www.wnd.com/2010/04/144865/ Kill the welfare state!], [[WND]]</ref>

==References==

==References==

*[http://www.aim.org/wls/category/redistribution/ What Liberals Say - Category: Redistribution], [[Accuracy In Media]]

*[http://www.aim.org/wls/category/redistribution/ What Liberals Say - Category: Redistribution], [[Accuracy In Media]]

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