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I think movements that want to change society need both diplomats and firebrands. The atheist movement seems to have lost its most effective firebrands due to death (Christopher Hitchens) or missteps (Dawkins and [[PZ Myers]]). A lot of people within the atheist population have soured on Dawkins/Myers. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:02, 22 March 2016 (EDT)
 
I think movements that want to change society need both diplomats and firebrands. The atheist movement seems to have lost its most effective firebrands due to death (Christopher Hitchens) or missteps (Dawkins and [[PZ Myers]]). A lot of people within the atheist population have soured on Dawkins/Myers. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:02, 22 March 2016 (EDT)
 
::No Conservative, you were celebrating the influx of religious immigrants into Europe, you did not specify Christian. And when they commit attrocities you turn it around and blame it on atheism; no. These people are/were the followers of the the Ambrahamic god, the same one that you and I believe in. The Madrid train bombings, London Underground, Paris on more than one occassion and now in Belgium people have been slaughtered by people worshipping the One God. Joseph Stalin  has been dead over 60 years so don't try pushing the blame onto him.--[[User:JamieVa|JamieVa]] ([[User talk:JamieVa|talk]]) 17:19, 22 March 2016 (EDT)
 
::No Conservative, you were celebrating the influx of religious immigrants into Europe, you did not specify Christian. And when they commit attrocities you turn it around and blame it on atheism; no. These people are/were the followers of the the Ambrahamic god, the same one that you and I believe in. The Madrid train bombings, London Underground, Paris on more than one occassion and now in Belgium people have been slaughtered by people worshipping the One God. Joseph Stalin  has been dead over 60 years so don't try pushing the blame onto him.--[[User:JamieVa|JamieVa]] ([[User talk:JamieVa|talk]]) 17:19, 22 March 2016 (EDT)
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:::PS, If Donald Trump was British and running for Prime Minister, I would vote for him.--[[User:JamieVa|JamieVa]] ([[User talk:JamieVa|talk]]) 17:23, 22 March 2016 (EDT)
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