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The polls varied between 10% and 18%, so "1 in 4" is not an accurate summary.  If you don't like my revision, we can go back to my first phrasing of the sentence, but I think this last one is better. Thanks, [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 23:08, 4 January 2013 (EST)

The polls varied between 10% and 18%, so "1 in 4" is not an accurate summary.  If you don't like my revision, we can go back to my first phrasing of the sentence, but I think this last one is better. Thanks, [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 23:08, 4 January 2013 (EST)

It is accurate (as nearly 20% is 1 in 5) [http://abcnews.go.com/WN/pew-poll-18-percent-americans-president-obama-muslim/story?id=11437070#.UOepB-R0P3M] [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2come one shit head - BLOCK MY BLACK ASSge receives widespread media attention in its current form.  The folks that funded the 2007 email effort did not leave fingerprints, but it would be ironic if Aschlafly picked up the smoldering gun with his bare hands just in time to be identified as the proponent of the issue. [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 03:19, 6 January 2013 (EST)

It is accurate (as nearly 20% is 1 in 5) [http://abcnews.go.com/WN/pew-poll-18-percent-americans-president-obama-muslim/story?id=11437070#.UOepB-R0P3M] [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/18/AR2010081806913.html] and I oppose the insertion of rumor. We don't have his baptism records and Obama can't be trusted with what he says. It's not a rumor, it's not fact, it is an unknown assumption. Replacing a sentence somebody just added reeks of edit war incivility. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 23:18, 4 January 2013 (EST)

 

::Thank you for the feedback.  From an editorial viewpoint, I am trying to maintain flow.  Obama's quotation uses the phrase "rumors that have been over the Internet" and "score political points".  I think that he is referring to the 2007 email blasts that started this. (I personally believe that such an effort would have come from a prospective Democratic primary opponent rather than from a true conservative.) So the sentence following the quote should stick with "rumor" rather than inject "best efforts of Obama's supporters" without any predicate.  As for the polling, I believe the more polling references provided in the article, the better. I am pleased that the "one in four" language was changed.  However, the bottom line is that if we are going to "let the readers decide", we should drop phrases like "Starting in 2007, unidentified people revealed that he was most likely a Muslim."  I believe that the article can be written in a way that leaves CP without answering the question one way or the other.  This issue is not important to me, but as the public face of CP, Aschlafly could take a serious hit in his personal reputation if this page receives widespread media attention in its current form.  The folks that funded the 2007 email effort did not leave fingerprints, but it would be ironic if Aschlafly picked up the smoldering gun with his bare hands just in time to be identified as the proponent of the issue. [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 03:19, 6 January 2013 (EST)

:::I wouldn't concern yourself about Aschlafly's reputation. Obama's quotation is more subterfuge. Obama could have specifically put the questions about his faith to rest, just as he could have come clean on his birth certificate. He prefers mystery that surrounds his life in order to hit his critics on demand. Despite the best efforts of Obama supporters is accurate. They don't want anybody to question Obama's words on the matter. We are supposed to take his word as his bond. I don't trust liars.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 13:49, 6 January 2013 (EST)

:::I wouldn't concern yourself about Aschlafly's reputation. Obama's quotation is more subterfuge. Obama could have specifically put the questions about his faith to rest, just as he could have come clean on his birth certificate. He prefers mystery that surrounds his life in order to hit his critics on demand. Despite the best efforts of Obama supporters is accurate. They don't want anybody to question Obama's words on the matter. We are supposed to take his word as his bond. I don't trust liars.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 13:49, 6 January 2013 (EST)