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| | :Alright, thanks AugustO--that sounds more like the answer that I was looking for. So, since it's complicated like this, perhaps we should remove the "xzy-wing" in the into, and explain later what you just said. We shouldn't really explain their politics through the lenses of ours, but explain theirs as it was. Does anyone object to simplifying matters this way? --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 08:30, 21 April 2016 (EDT) | | :Alright, thanks AugustO--that sounds more like the answer that I was looking for. So, since it's complicated like this, perhaps we should remove the "xzy-wing" in the into, and explain later what you just said. We shouldn't really explain their politics through the lenses of ours, but explain theirs as it was. Does anyone object to simplifying matters this way? --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 08:30, 21 April 2016 (EDT) |
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| | + | :No. Both Hitler and Goebbels themselves admitted that the Nazis were far-Left. Read below: |
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| | + | :{{quote|We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.|Hitler speech, May 1, 1927}} |
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| | + | :{{quote|Each activity and each need of the individual will thereby be regulated by the party as the representative of the general good. There will be no license, no free space, in which the individual belongs to himself. This is Socialism--not such trifles as the private possession of the means of production. Of what importance is that if I range men firmly within a discipline they cannot escape? Let them then own land or factories as much as they please. The decisive factor is that the State, through the party, is supreme over them, regardless whether they are owners or workers. All that, you see, is unessential. Our Socialism goes far deeper.|Hitler to Hermann Rauschning, quoted from ''The Ominous Parallels'' by Leonard Peikoff}} |
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| | + | :{{quote|The NSDAP is the German Left. We despise bourgeois nationalism.|Joesph Goebbels quote from ''Der Angriff'', December 6, 1931}} |
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| | + | :And here's a couple of quotes that shows that the Nazis saw the Communists as a rival for control of the Left (as well as an admission that Nazism's roots are in socialism, just as the roots of Communism are: |
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| | + | :{{quote|We are against the political bourgeoisie, and for genuine nationalism! We are against Marxism, but for true socialism! We are for the first German national state of a socialist nature! We are for the National Socialist German Workers’ Party!|Joseph Goebbels and Mjölnir, ''Die verfluchten Hakenkreuzler. Etwas zum Nachdenken'', 1932}} |
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| | + | :{{quote|Socialism may be established by force, as in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics--or by vote, as in Nazi (National Socialist) Germany. The degree of socialization may be total, as in Russia--or partial, as in England. Theoretically, the differences are superficial; practically, they are only a matter of time. The basic principle, in all cases, is the same.|From chapter "The Monument Builders", from ''The Virtue of Selfishness'' by Ayn Rand}} |
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| | + | :The claim by liberals of the Nazis being "far-Right" is a lie stubbornly perpetrated by those same liberals to fool the public and to avoid having Nazism linked with the far-Left, even though Nazism and Communism have a great deal in common (including anti-Semitism - Karl Marx was an anti-Semite, just as Hitler was, and both made their prejudices part and parcel of their ideologies). |
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| | + | :Other links that make clear the roots of Nazism in socialism and the far-Left: |
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| | + | :*[http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/630472/posts A Little Secret About the Nazis] |
| | + | :*[https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian] |
| | + | :*[http://cubadebate.superforo.net/t113-similarities-between-nazism-and-communism Similarities Between Nazism and Communism] |
| | + | :*[http://louderwithcrowder.com/myth-busted-actually-yes-hitler-was-a-socialist-liberal/#.VxjLyDHwzud MYTH BUSTED: Actually, Yes, Hitler Was a Socialist Liberal] |
| | + | :*[http://hubpages.com/politics/Communism-Nazism-Two-of-a-kind Communism & Nazism - Two of a kind?] |
| | + | :*[https://democraticpeace.wordpress.com/2009/05/23/hitler-was-a-socialist/ Hitler Was A Socialist, (And Not A Right Wing Conservative)] |
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| | + | :[[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 08:54, 21 April 2016 (EDT) |