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"between a man and woman"
[[User:Middle Man|Middle Man]]
[[User:Middle Man|Middle Man]]
== "between a man and woman" ==
*Is indeed true "by definition" of holy matrimony;
*is true of civil marriage by longstanding custom and popular expectation;
*but is not true of civil marraige "by definition."
The whole gay marriage issue arises precisely because it is ''not'' true by definition. If it were, there would be no need for a political struggle to write new laws to ''make'' it true "by definition." [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 10:48, 22 April 2007 (EDT)