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→Rap is not torture: let's cut to the quick
So, if you are so keen on including '''Eminem''', maybe we should start a whole category of [[''Artists work used as torture'']]. Frankly, I think pushing this POV of yours is boring and a waste of time, but I wanted to point out that as you keep reverting to get this one little thing in to make Conservapedia look silly, you disregard the greater issue. The point is to list various methods used as torture, not to pick on rap because you have an axe to grind. [[User:Flippin|Flippin]] 09:22, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
So, if you are so keen on including '''Eminem''', maybe we should start a whole category of [[''Artists work used as torture'']]. Frankly, I think pushing this POV of yours is boring and a waste of time, but I wanted to point out that as you keep reverting to get this one little thing in to make Conservapedia look silly, you disregard the greater issue. The point is to list various methods used as torture, not to pick on rap because you have an axe to grind. [[User:Flippin|Flippin]] 09:22, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
:Ok, let's cut to the quick. This whole section,
::''The US has been criticized for using [[waterboarding]] as a [[coercive interrogation]] technique, on the grounds that it amounts to [[torture]].<ref>http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1933315,00.html</ref>, as an interrogation method at the [[Guantanamo Bay detention camp]] <ref>http://www.guardian.co.uk/guantanamo/story/0,,1981955,00.html</ref><ref>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=377623&in_page_id=1766&ito=1490</ref><ref>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3706050.stm</ref> and also kidnapping people of Middle Eastern descent in a process known as [[extraordinary rendition]].
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:was excised [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Torture&diff=prev&oldid=124069] along with the refs, because none of it, NONE OF IT, was supported by the underlying cites. It had originally been inserted by a now indefinetely banned vandaled. It also had been reinserted by a Sysop during a previous edit war. The same fraudulent misinformation appears in ''other'' Conservapedia articles. The problems with the ''ABC News'' cite, which ''is not'' wholesale misinformation, but ''does'' contain questionable material, have been outlined here above, and elsewhere. [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia_talk:Is_Rap_music_torture%3F]
:We can conclude, the source of the quote, "They would not let you rest, day or night. Stand up, sit down, stand up, sit down. Don't sleep. Don't lie on the floor," came from a prisoner whom ''ABC News'' describes as one of several "escaped prisoners from one CIA prison in Afghanistan." [http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/print?id=1322866] This assertion by ''ABC News'' itself raises several extremely problematic concerns that need to be addressed which will be espanded upon if necessary. Most importantly, this quote '''is the only''' direct evidence coming from an alleged eyewitness to torture in that entire news article. Serious questions remain about all of ''ABC News's'' anonymous sources, the credibility of several of these sources, the methods and motivations of ''ABC News'' in publishing highly questionable material of this nature which appears intended to inflame passions, and ultimately ''ABC News's'' own credibility if they cannot answer some of these questions. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 09:58, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
== Unprotect ==
== Unprotect ==
This page needs to be unprotected. This blatant attempt to push POV is embarrassing. [[User:Flippin|Flippin]] 09:26, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
This page needs to be unprotected. This blatant attempt to push POV is embarrassing. [[User:Flippin|Flippin]] 09:26, 24 April 2007 (EDT)