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:Wrong, your argument is baseless. God, didn't destroy us but could have IS NOT love him or fear him. It is God loves, in the natural order of the world, you love somebody when they love you back. It is a bond of love, a reciprocating love. Unless an atheist, then you just love yourself and your supposed brilliant mind. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 16:32, 19 May 2009 (EDT)

:Wrong, your argument is baseless. God, didn't destroy us but could have IS NOT love him or fear him. It is God loves, in the natural order of the world, you love somebody when they love you back. It is a bond of love, a reciprocating love. Unless an atheist, then you just love yourself and your supposed brilliant mind. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 16:32, 19 May 2009 (EDT)

Neither one of you is understanding this properly. God is not elevated if you worship Him, and He is not lessened if you don't. Remember the admonition Christ gave when asked what what thing a man should do: love God with all your heart and soul. There are not many legitimate frames of mind that a man can adopt when faced with his creator. He can adore Him and love Him. Or we can resent the hell out of Him. When we're talking about the infinite, there really isn't an in-between. The in-between you imagine (hang out, kind of acknowledge the big guy, playing it cool, but trying to remember to give Him a friendly nod when you see Him in the hallway) doesn't work. Casual respect is incompatible with genuine belief. Personally, I don't necessarily think that going to church is necessary. There are a bunch of churches I suspect do more harm than good, even. But worship itself is simply what you naturally do when you really believe. He doesn't care in the slightest that you join a throng and make noises, waving your hands in the air (actually He does, see Biblical references to "hypocrites"). It's the internal process that matter. Love Him with all your heart and soul. If you don't, it's not He who suffers. It's you. And it's not because He'll be ******. It's because you'll be totally unprepared to be in his presence. Retain your ego, you're desire to be His peer, and you're not going to be prepared for the infinite. (Because remember: you won't be the one who is infinite, but you'll be in His presence.) -[[User:Ronbo|Ronbo]]

Neither one of you is understanding this properly. God is not elevated if you worship Him, and He is not lessened if you don't. Remember the admonition Christ gave when asked what thing a man should do: love God with all your heart and soul. There are not many legitimate frames of mind that a man can adopt when faced with his creator. He can adore Him and love Him. Or we can resent the hell out of Him. When we're talking about the infinite, there really isn't an in-between. The in-between you imagine (hang out, kind of acknowledge the big guy, playing it cool, but trying to remember to give Him a friendly nod when you see Him in the hallway) doesn't work. Casual respect is incompatible with genuine belief. Personally, I don't necessarily think that going to church is necessary. There are a bunch of churches I suspect do more harm than good, even. But worship itself is simply what you naturally do when you really believe. He doesn't care in the slightest that you join a throng and make noises, waving your hands in the air (actually He does, see Biblical references to "hypocrites"). It's the internal process that matter. Love Him with all your heart and soul. If you don't, it's not He who suffers. It's you. And it's not because He'll be ******. It's because you'll be totally unprepared to be in his presence. Retain your ego, you're desire to be His peer, and you're not going to be prepared for the infinite. (Because remember: you won't be the one who is infinite, but you'll be in His presence.) -[[User:Ronbo|Ronbo]]

:Did you really join only to hammer out an unintelligible screed?  For future writing, paragraphs are very important, ''you're'' is ''you are'' while ''your'' is a possessive pronoun.  And do not use foul language on this site. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 11:21, 19 September 2009 (EDT)

:Did you really join only to hammer out an unintelligible screed?  For future writing, paragraphs are very important, ''you're'' is ''you are'' while ''your'' is a possessive pronoun.  And do not use foul language on this site. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 11:21, 19 September 2009 (EDT)

[[User:Exwikipediaperson|Exwikipediaperson]] 12:01, 6 August 2014 (EDT)

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I find all your statements and quotes to be if ignorance. We were not created out of love. Sounds like someone believing the mind control t techniques of ancient writing. We were made to work for gods,not God and definitely not just a "He". Athiest would not exsist if the church didn't use brainwashing to manipulate there congregation. Are we slaves? It seems so! When Adam and Eve revolting d against being enslaved by the gods they were up punished and blablablah. When farmers revolted against the land (Cane and Abel) they were punished. When homosexuals revolted in Sodom and gomarah they were punished. It's true it's either the gods way or be punished. If we are speaking of the gods who are in the Bible walking with man and causing destruction to them. If we are talking about the every thing happens for a reason, Universe God than that's another story we as humans are not able to read. I can. Assume humans we created to work the earth by gods, whoever they maybe. The God of the Universe is not he or she, it is a set of laws that can't be changed.The first sign your ignorance could have been enlightened by word be the gods are jealous. That is a being characteristic. The God of the universe would have warned us of pollution, aids, and cancer. About corrupt governments and religious groups brain washing citizens. I find your ignorance annoying. We are not special beings, we are animals just lime the cows and chickens you eat. We are cannibals and disgusting creatures. Learn more than what the Bible tells you, look deep within yourself while your fantasizing about females, while your angry about not having enough, and ask who the hell was these gods who created us so foul. You are praying to gods and Jesus and that being and this being, but you neglect the earth with your SUVs and your materialistic mind state. The Gods hate us, they wants us to pray to t to convince them we are worthy not to be destroyed as they are promised to do in the Bible. I believe in Jesus and God of the Universe and the gods and beings that were created. It's spiritual, it's wisdom and knowledge. But luck and constantly being a hypocrite will get us no where

I find all your statements and quotes to be if ignorance. We were not created out of love. Sounds like someone believing the mind control t techniques of ancient writing. We were made to work for gods,not God and definitely not just a "He". Atheist would not exist if the church didn't use brainwashing to manipulate there congregation. Are we slaves? It seems so! When Adam and Eve revolting d against being enslaved by the gods they were up punished and blablablah. When farmers revolted against the land (Cane and Abel) they were punished. When homosexuals revolted in Sodom and gomarah they were punished. It's true it's either the gods way or be punished. If we are speaking of the gods who are in the Bible walking with man and causing destruction to them. If we are talking about the every thing happens for a reason, Universe God than that's another story we as humans are not able to read. I can. Assume humans we created to work the earth by gods, whoever they maybe. The God of the Universe is not he or she, it is a set of laws that can't be changed.The first sign your ignorance could have been enlightened by word be the gods are jealous. That is a being characteristic. The God of the universe would have warned us of pollution, aids, and cancer. About corrupt governments and religious groups brain washing citizens. I find your ignorance annoying. We are not special beings, we are animals just lime the cows and chickens you eat. We are cannibals and disgusting creatures. Learn more than what the Bible tells you, look deep within yourself while your fantasizing about females, while your angry about not having enough, and ask who the hell was these gods who created us so foul. You are praying to gods and Jesus and that being and this being, but you neglect the earth with your SUVs and your materialistic mind state. The Gods hate us, they wants us to pray to t to convince them we are worthy not to be destroyed as they are promised to do in the Bible. I believe in Jesus and God of the Universe and the gods and beings that were created. It's spiritual, it's wisdom and knowledge. But luck and constantly being a hypocrite will get us no where

== Why do atheists care if God is worshiped? Jealous?  ==

== Why do atheists care if God is worshiped? Jealous?  ==

Why do atheists care if God is worshiped? Jealous? See: [[Atheism and arrogance]]

Why do atheists care if God is worshiped? Jealous? See: [[Atheism and arrogance]]