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Conservapedia talk:Attribution (view source)
Revision as of 17:14, April 24, 2007
, 17:14, April 24, 2007→I think if you look at Rob's protection or torture you'll see what he means
:::Maybe I'm in violation of WP:POINT, but the POINT is, the Eminem cite is about the '''only''' properly qualified cite from that article, and infact the ''ABC News'' article has deeply problematic vulnerabilities, nonetheleast of which is a question of [[journalistic ethics]] of ''both'' the authors and the editors of ''ABC News''. Yet that cite, and a few others, are already scattered throughout CP. I'm not saying it can't be used, I am saying the ''ABC News'' article was used improperly, and the cite I made to it was factual and an improvement over what had been represented out of that cite. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 13:04, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
:::Maybe I'm in violation of WP:POINT, but the POINT is, the Eminem cite is about the '''only''' properly qualified cite from that article, and infact the ''ABC News'' article has deeply problematic vulnerabilities, nonetheleast of which is a question of [[journalistic ethics]] of ''both'' the authors and the editors of ''ABC News''. Yet that cite, and a few others, are already scattered throughout CP. I'm not saying it can't be used, I am saying the ''ABC News'' article was used improperly, and the cite I made to it was factual and an improvement over what had been represented out of that cite. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 13:04, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
If you look at Amnesty International's definition, it includes these forms:
Other methods of torture and ill-treatment which have been reportedly used by state officials:
- Violently shaking
- Tying up the victim in painful positions for prolonged periods
- Flogging
- Prolonged exposure to cold or heat
- Forcibly use of drugs
- Sterilization without consent
- Threatening the victim
- Threatening to hurt friends or relatives of the victim
- Refusal to provide adequate or proper medical treatment
The ABC article, which you are making so much of, includes these:
The Attention Grab
The Attention Slap
The Belly Slap
Long Time Standing
The Cold Cell
Water Boarding
'''YOU''', decided to include these:
Rape and sexual abuse in custody
Mock execution or threat of death
Prolonged solitary confinement
Electric shocks
Suspension of the body
Suffocation
'''Eminem's "Slim Shady" album [4]'''
I am saying this ref. to Eminem is ridiculous. You list it among "commonly reported methods include:" and this is not common. That is why I am saying you are pushing your ignorance on people who may not know better. That is hard to describe as anything but propaganda, not just conservative bias. Do you see the difference? What if someone else included "reading the bible" as a common method of torture? Or, say, "playing Billy Graham real loud on a television set night and day?" All youe example does is push your personal agenda on the mistaken belief that it represents a common method of torture. [[User:Flippin|Flippin]] 13:14, 24 April 2007 (EDT)