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Line 35: + + + + − Yeah, should we really call Thomas Jefferson a Conservative? Last I checked, he supported the Jacobin terrors of the French Revolution, even AFTER their horrific acts came to light, and last I checked, the Jacobins were practically the founders of the Left-wing. Not to mention his calls for permanent revolution and his supporting slavery by practice and even to some extent in beliefs (he basically said there cannot be any freed African Americans in America, they either be slaves or shipped back to Africa, which was something George Washington was against). I only recall a few instances of people calling for permanent revolution, and they were figures who were decidedly left-wing and not conservative by any stretch (I'm thinking of Vladimir Lenin and Che Guevara). I'm not sure I should list Jefferson as a conservative at all. Even the Jeffersonian Republicans article noted they have more in common with the modern liberals than true conservatives. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:23, 22 July 2016 (EDT)+
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== Conservative? ==
== Conservative? ==
Yeah, should we really call Thomas Jefferson a Conservative? Last I checked, he supported the Jacobin terrors of the French Revolution, even AFTER their horrific acts came to light, and last I checked, the Jacobins were practically the founders of the Left-wing. Not to mention his calls for permanent revolution and his supporting slavery by practice and even to some extent in beliefs (he basically said there cannot be any freed African Americans in America, they either be slaves or shipped back to Africa, which was something George Washington was against). I only recall a few instances of people calling for permanent revolution, and they were figures who were decidedly left-wing and not conservative by any stretch (I'm thinking of Vladimir Lenin and Che Guevara). I'm not sure I should list Jefferson as a conservative at all. Even the Jeffersonian Republicans article noted they have more in common with the modern liberals than true conservatives. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:23, 22 July 2016 (EDT)
:Are you really of the belief that Jefferson believed in exterminating people? See: [https://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/french-revolution French Revolution] That, and I think he penned the letter before he knew of the death of King Louis. The actual text of the Adam and Eve letter makes it quite clear that he believed that individuals would keep fighting against dictators, just as the Americans had done.(something akin to liberty having more value than life itself)
:<blockquote>My own affections have been deeply wounded by some of the martyrs to this cause, but rather than it should have failed, I would have seen half the earth desolated. Were there but an Adam & an Eve left in every country, '''& left free''', it would be better than as it now is. I have expressed to you my sentiments, '''because they are really those of 99. in an hundred of our citizens'''</blockquote>
:As has been seen with any historical extermination that I can think of, nobody is left free once the massacres begin. Furthermore, he likely got 99 out of 100 wrong, but liberty being of greater value than life was a well known sentiment during the battles for Independence.
:And why didn't he start exterminating people once he was actually president? You might want to think about this a little bit more.[[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 21:59, 22 July 2016 (EDT)