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:Nonsense, are you joking? Tell me your being sarcastic! There may be nothing inherently immoral with homo'''phobia''' ''per se'', just as there is nothing inherently immoral in '''any phobia''', like arachnophobia, say. But there ''is'' a problem with the discriminatory behavior which may be caused by homophobia, and in condemning this behavior you are not: "''systematically persecuting and discriminating against handicapped victims."'', in the same way that pyromania may be a psychiatric diagnosis, but in condemning people who go around setting fire to buildings, people are not being bigots, they are just pointing out that burning people and their possessions is wrong. [[User:Orgone|Orgone]] 13:56, 25 April 2007 (EDT)
:Nonsense, are you joking? Tell me your being sarcastic! There may be nothing inherently immoral with homo'''phobia''' ''per se'', just as there is nothing inherently immoral in '''any phobia''', like arachnophobia, say. But there ''is'' a problem with the discriminatory behavior which may be caused by homophobia, and in condemning this behavior you are not: "''systematically persecuting and discriminating against handicapped victims."'', in the same way that pyromania may be a psychiatric diagnosis, but in condemning people who go around setting fire to buildings, people are not being bigots, they are just pointing out that burning people and their possessions is wrong. [[User:Orgone|Orgone]] 13:56, 25 April 2007 (EDT)
*''there ''is'' a problem with the discriminatory behavior which may be caused by homophobia''
:This is a diagnosable psychiatric condition. They are ''legally'' handicapped. Persecuting them is discrimination.
*''pyromania may be a psychiatric diagnosis''
:Not all pyromaniacs are [[arson]]ists, just as not all homophobes commit crimes of violence, either. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 14:04, 25 April 2007 (EDT)