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Murder of Seth Rich
:There are plenty of competitors, but Bing and Yahoo are the biggest ones in the U.S. There are plenty of others, though. As you pointed out, some are partners. DuckDuckGo is partnered with Yahoo, ixquick is partnered with Google, etc., but there are plenty of independent search engines still. Ask.com, webcrawler.com, yippy.com, all seem to be independant competitors as well. I would count Yandex as a big one as well, since although they are not as big in the U.S., they dominate the market in some other parts of the world.
:There are plenty of competitors, but Bing and Yahoo are the biggest ones in the U.S. There are plenty of others, though. As you pointed out, some are partners. DuckDuckGo is partnered with Yahoo, ixquick is partnered with Google, etc., but there are plenty of independent search engines still. Ask.com, webcrawler.com, yippy.com, all seem to be independant competitors as well. I would count Yandex as a big one as well, since although they are not as big in the U.S., they dominate the market in some other parts of the world.
:You're right, an unbiased search engine is needed, but Google is the censoring king, so until something better comes along, you're best off with almost anyone else. As for a "blocked by google" search engine, (which sounds sort of like deletopedia for web searching), it would be very hard to do this, since Google isn't not forthright with their filtering and censoring. It's a near idea, if it were possible, but I also doubt many people would use it, since Google blocks a lot of sites for good reason, too. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup><small>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</small></sup> 13:07, 26 August 2016 (EDT)
:You're right, an unbiased search engine is needed, but Google is the censoring king, so until something better comes along, you're best off with almost anyone else. As for a "blocked by google" search engine, (which sounds sort of like deletopedia for web searching), it would be very hard to do this, since Google isn't not forthright with their filtering and censoring. It's a near idea, if it were possible, but I also doubt many people would use it, since Google blocks a lot of sites for good reason, too. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup><small>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</small></sup> 13:07, 26 August 2016 (EDT)
==Murder of Seth Rich==
This is not a good example. The reason why this page has not shown up on Google is at least partly because Google hasn't been able to "see" it.
Just for a frame of reference, the page "Chinagate fundraising scandal" is the fourth top item in a Google search.
I created the page on August 5th, and two wikilinks pointing to it the same day.
Google didn't catalog the page until mid august, and it wasn't at least until a week after that when the page appeared in search.
Before Google could "see" the Chinagate page, it needed to refresh the other pages that linked to it.(Bill and Hillary are the two pages I created links on) Once Google could "see" it, it cataloged the page and now it is in search.
The point is this; The Seth Rich is going to show up in Google, sometime soon, I just don't know when. The Hillary page has refreshed and the link now appears there.
My best guess is that by mid-late September, that page will show up in Google. But I don't know Google's actual formulas, I can only come to conclusions based on observation. Three things currently influence how and when. The Seth Rich page is a longer page than the Chinagate page is. It also has more revisions, and it only has one link to it instead of two. That provides less opportunity for Google to "see" the page and then more work to catalog it and compare key words for use in the search algorithm.
If anybody would like to test this out with a new page creation and attempt to detail more specifically the how and the when, I would be happy to be a part. I've seen some of the pages that I create, that are very small and with multiple links to them, show up in search as soon as roughly two weeks. Longer pages with less links pointing to them take longer. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 11:51, 4 September 2016 (EDT)