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|What you are saying actually agrees with me. Consider putting a glass of water (this is our '''open''' system) into the fridge. It cools down and its entropy decreases. Same as my example above.
 
|What you are saying actually agrees with me. Consider putting a glass of water (this is our '''open''' system) into the fridge. It cools down and its entropy decreases. Same as my example above.
 
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What you just said above is 1. the sun is not an energy source; and 2. your glass of "open system" water in the fridge cooling down and not increasing its entropy.  The fridge needs power to do that.
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But my other question is this: why do you feel a need to question the 2nd law of thermodynamics on a page which the subject is "counterexamples to evolution"?  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 13:46, 26 September 2016 (EDT)
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