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::Ottihw, no, I haven't decided what God would like.  I have ''learnt'' what God would like be reading what He has told us.  Everwill is correct that Hitler was an atheist, but I disagree that we can all gain different morals from the Bible.  That is in effect saying that words have no meaning, so we can choose to understand them any way we want.  Should I choose to understand your words any way I want, or should I presume that we are both using the same convention of English (in this case) language and that you mean what you've said?  Besides, if you and I can both derive different morals from reading the Bible, how is it any better if we ''don't'' read the Bible?  Surely that would mean even ''less'' restraint on what we choose our morals to be?  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:36, 26 April 2007 (EDT)
 
::Ottihw, no, I haven't decided what God would like.  I have ''learnt'' what God would like be reading what He has told us.  Everwill is correct that Hitler was an atheist, but I disagree that we can all gain different morals from the Bible.  That is in effect saying that words have no meaning, so we can choose to understand them any way we want.  Should I choose to understand your words any way I want, or should I presume that we are both using the same convention of English (in this case) language and that you mean what you've said?  Besides, if you and I can both derive different morals from reading the Bible, how is it any better if we ''don't'' read the Bible?  Surely that would mean even ''less'' restraint on what we choose our morals to be?  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:36, 26 April 2007 (EDT)
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Which is another way of saying that Phil is a "strict constructionist" when it comes to the Bible. I think the mullahs in Iran (though they use a different book) agree with him in this way.  I'm more of a deconstructionist and have more doubts about the Bible being the "Word of God".  I think God's Words are way too complicated for one man or one book to describe.  However, I would agree on 99% of the big picture with Phil and probably with the so-called atheists in here. That to me is evidence of God. [[User:Everwill|Everwill]] 10:47, 26 April 2007 (EDT)
    
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